[Carey Ward]

Got a Pure freedom hot system and had first chance to use it today in -3.  Tried it out on house windows.  Had about 20 metres of 8mm hose out and even though the temp on heater said 67 the water from brush head was quite cold. Checked the windows after about 5 mins and found that it had frozen on the window.

To you guys that say you are working in minus temperatures and it's not freezing on windows
- what temperature is your water when it leaves the pole
- how much hose are you using
- did you check that windows haven't froze
- if windows did freeze how did customer react

Any help much appreciated 

[rah]

Hi Carey,

I don't use a hot system, but have worked all day, well from about 08:15 I think you'll find that if there is no heating on in the property your cleaning then it's going to freeze regardless.

Rob.

[Carey Ward]

Thanks for the comments

There was some heating in the house and you didn't say what temp you worked in

[mci services]

I used warm water today about 30 degrees, no idea what it comes out the pole but luke warm would my guess. it was -3, it did not freeze on the windows although that is not say if I hung about to check it didn't. I went collecting tonight and no complaints.

[lee09]

Thanks for the comments

There was some heating in the house and you didn't say what temp you worked in

The clue is in his reply
Lee

[suds window service]

Got a Pure freedom hot system and had first chance to use it today in -3.  Tried it out on house windows.  Had about 20 metres of 8mm hose out and even though the temp on heater said 67 the water from brush head was quite cold. Checked the windows after about 5 mins and found that it had frozen on the window.

To you guys that say you are working in minus temperatures and it's not freezing on windows
- what temperature is your water when it leaves the pole
- how much hose are you using
- did you check that windows haven't froze
- if windows did freeze how did customer react

Any help much appreciated 

worked all day today in stockton on tees with an l5 heater cost no more than £200 all in temp at brush head 72

[trevor perry]

if there is no heating in house the water will freeze on glass no matter how hot the water is, i have the purefreedom system but like you i found if running 100m of 8mm hose on cold ground then it would loose most of the heat by the time it reached the brush head i changed to 6mm hose and although it still looses a bit of heat it is still very warm at brush head.

[Carey Ward]

Thanks for that info Trevor, will try that

- would be interesting to know what bore you other guys use

[mci services]

never thought about bore size but I use 6mm and keep it as short as i can on the ground even if it means moving the van more

[rah]

Thanks for the comments

There was some heating in the house and you didn't say what temp you worked in

To be honest i don't really pay much attention to how cold it is, more can i work or not, I'd say it was below freezing most of the day, but couldn't honestly give you a figure.

Rob.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

where in cheshire r u rah

[CRYSTAL1984]

I have Purefreedom 9 kw hot systems with 8 mm orange 100m hose .
At the head 36c ok all day to day in Basildon essex

[JoeMax]

Wrap the first 10 meters of your hose in paper style tape, and prop the hose up wherever possible.

[stevenpaulmatthews]

 @ cary ward

you dont seem to state how long after stating up your hot water machine you connected your pole.............reason in my asking is that it takes about 4 -5 mins to empty all the cold water out of the hose

[Nick_Thompson]

The other day, at - 4, I took rain water from a half frozen bucket in my back garden. I then threw a cupful over the windows of my unheated conservatory, and another over my front room windows, which, of course, were subject to the central heating.

As one would expect, the water on the conservatory windows froze instantaneously, but the water on the front room windows, after the initial runoff stayed fluidic, and thereafter, evaporated completely.

Is it possible that the temperature of the glass is much more of a factor than the temperature of the water?

Hose fed car washing continues in some of our super market car parks, in sub zero conditions, simply by letting the water run continuously. They never turn the tap off. There is usually then enough heat radiating from the car to allow them to dry it off, while all around them the workers trudge through what looks like mounds of 'slush-puppy ice'.

That tap water is only a few degrees above freezing.

D'yaknowattamean?
 

[Carey Ward]

Thanks for the comments guys

Have ordered some 6mm hose from Gardiners as ours was getting a bit worn - so heres hoping it works