[anthony eton]

Hi Everyone, I need advice on this, Yesterday I was doing a maintainance clean on a house that I cleaned six weeks ago,and as I was rinsing off,WFP,the water seemed to be very Milky. I was using a new brush for the first time,{superlight Dual trim flocked} Am I doing something wrong or is it the new brush?,I used up an innordinate amount of water on the rinse and had to cut my day short because of this.All thoughts on this much appreciated,Best Wishes Ant .PS they were UPVC widows.

[Jack Wallace]

Sunlight and weather breaks down the upvc, the surface goes almost powdery. if you run your finger across it your finger will go white.
It will go in time, the more often it is cleaned the better it will get.
a good rinse usually ensures it dries ok, it will take more water but is the only way other than trad. (but you dont want to go back to the dark ages)    

[anthony eton]

Hi Jack, Thanks for that,I normally do Wfp Upstairs and Trad downstairs to conserve my water,but I decided yesterday to try doing Wfp    down stairs aswell to see how much quicker it would be,Big Mistake :'(I used up enough extra water to do another house,that will teach me to get cocky :(Anyway thanks again,Best wishes Ant.

[[GQC] Tim]

Hi Jack, Thanks for that,I normally do Wfp Upstairs and Trad downstairs to conserve my water,but I decided yesterday to try doing Wfp    down stairs aswell to see how much quicker it would be,Big Mistake :'(I used up enough extra water to do another house,that will teach me to get cocky :(Anyway thanks again,Best wishes Ant.

If you are rinsing a upvc window and the water runs off milky you are mixing frames and glass. First focus on the frame, then glass, or even better, skip the frame alltogether and only do it once in a while when it gets bad. Just be precise when you rinse and only rinse the glass, don't splash the frame.

ps. conserving water with wfp is generally speaking not the best thing to do. If you need more water, make sure you have enough water with you. If you are working from a car with trolley or backpack, do it properly and get a van + system. Using wfp on tops and trad downstairs is a massive waste of time. If you haven't done downstairs ever with wfp you are naturally going to use a lot more water. On first cleans I use 2 to 3 times as much water as on a maintenance clean.

[anthony eton]

Hi Mr Tim,I think you are right ,now I think About it,I was mixing frames and glass,and my water supply is a bit limiting at the moment,as I can only carry one hundred litres at a time.This is because of limited finances,as soon as I can afford it I will be getting a bigger water tank. Tanks a lot Best Wishes Ant .PS Why are water tanks so exspensive? Cheers Ant

[Spruce]

Hi

I had a large lounge window like you describe when we first started converting customers to WFP. I washed the glass 3 times before giving up and blading it dry.
I was dreading the return to clean the following month, but that window dried perfectly - so maybe the same will happen to you.

Spruce

[dai]

I have a few doing the same on one estate, it only happens on the south facing frames though, it is the sunlight that does it.

[Steve Weatherley]

How can you be sure it's the sunlight? Whats the scientific reason?

[anthony eton]

Thanks Mr Spruce,I really hope so.  (Cheers Ant.

[mark dew]

I have a few doing the same on one estate, it only happens on the south facing frames though, it is the sunlight that does it.

How can you be sure it's the sunlight? Whats the scientific reason?

I don't know any scientific reason but i used to notice this on a few of my larger accounts that had wooden windows. The south facing windows paint wore down much more than the other sides. This took me a couple of years wfp before i noticed the difference. When i worked trad the wear was more uniform.
It's very noticable when doing the same house for a few years.

[[GQC] Tim]

Yea it's the south facing windows that do it, probably the sun breaking it down even more. If the window has beading, 9/10 the windows will come up perfectly well. I do some old aluminium windows, they are terribly oxidised. The beading is allright though, so the glass still comes up well. If it doesn't have beading, it will be much trickier.

[anthony eton]

Hi, Sorry to ask this but what is beading?   [Best wishes Ant

[dazmond]

ANTHONY it means the water doesnt run down the glass in a sheet,more like little rivers!!

glass that sheets is hydrophilic and glass the beads is hydraphobic.

on normal windows with good frames i find windows that sheet less of a spotting problem.

hope this helps!

dazmond

[anthony eton]

Hi,Daz,Thanks a lot ,this is VERY helpful and Interesting infomation,Cheers ,by the way keep up the good work,Best Wishes Ant