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james roffey

Wick back
« on: July 06, 2010, 11:28:06 pm »
Did a room in a church hall recently low profile carpet tiles lots and lots of spillages, used powerbust, fantastic result, went back a few days later to do some other rooms in the same building and noticed that although it was still clean some of the stains were showing in the first room i did, to be honest it was one of those times i wish i had invested in a rotary as i thought i could fix it by bonnet cleaning it, but i do not have a rotary yet  ::)
I re did the room but turned the pressure down to 150 and made multiple dry passes and then put the fan in the room, did i do the right thing, did i miss something or should i now invest in a rotary.

richie

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 04:06:56 am »
Hi James,

Turning the pressure down and extra dry passes helps and installing a fan will also aid.  Sometimes regardless of what you do or whatever cleaning system you use stains will reappear.  If i were you i would invest in a rotary, cleaning low profile tiles can often be much quicker using the bonnet system and give fantastic results.  We do tens of thousands of square metres using the bonnet system. We have truckmount, portable & bonnet sytems and use whichever we feel will do the best job at the time.  Get yourself a rotary second hand one if possible to save at least 50%, someprochem cotton pads (dont buy the microfibre pads) as they are crap.  Fusion from Solutions UK is a really good product to use with bonnet systems.

Richie.

Joe H

Re: Wick back
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 08:30:08 am »
As Richie said, yes, you did the right thing under the circumstances.

but get a rotary, for what they cost it is a good investment, and again, as Richie said, Fusion Clean is good.

CleanerCarpets

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 08:42:48 am »
i've used Powerburst once - from recommendations on here. The carpet looked fantastic and it was a real minger to start with. I gave a prevac, prespray, mechanical agitate, acid rinse and a groom. It was polyprop and customer was over the moon as so was i - i'd found a new wonder cleaner.

A week later - the customer phoned to say some of the marks had wicked back - i went to see and the carpet didnt look good at all to the point where i was wondereing if it was me that had cleaned it!!! I was really disappointed - i'd never had a problem like that before.

I recleaned it with bonnet and Fusion Clean and fixed it - carpet all ok 4 weeks down the line.

Was my first experience with Prochem Powerburst and my last - i'll stick to detergo free!!! I've used Spitfire and similar in the past and never had problems - but Powerburst makes me wonder how it leaves the carpet. May have just been a one off but from the above topic maybe not..............

richy27

Re: Wick back
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 10:40:14 am »
i've used Powerburst once - from recommendations on here. The carpet looked fantastic and it was a real minger to start with. I gave a prevac, prespray, mechanical agitate, acid rinse and a groom. It was polyprop and customer was over the moon as so was i - i'd found a new wonder cleaner.

A week later - the customer phoned to say some of the marks had wicked back - i went to see and the carpet didnt look good at all to the point where i was wondereing if it was me that had cleaned it!!! I was really disappointed - i'd never had a problem like that before.

I recleaned it with bonnet and Fusion Clean and fixed it - carpet all ok 4 weeks down the line.

Was my first experience with Prochem Powerburst and my last - i'll stick to detergo free!!! I've used Spitfire and similar in the past and never had problems - but Powerburst makes me wonder how it leaves the carpet. May have just been a one off but from the above topic maybe not..............

never had a problem with power burst before and think its one of the best pre sprays available. what was your drying time like

richie

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 10:42:53 am »
There may be the odd occasion that you get a stain or 2 reappear.  If the carpet was as bad as you have described then it sounds like it took to long to dry. What you have said after cleaning with PowerBurst is not something that i have ever experienced, look at the amount of people that have rated PowerBurst on this & other forums.  Its plain to see that it is a really good chemical (that does what it says on the tin).  Dont judge a book by its cover, give it another go.

Richie.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 11:24:43 am »
I agree with Richie. Powerburst is probably the best carpet pre-spray - ever. I've used it for years and never had even the slightest problem with it.

simon

JandS

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 01:14:33 pm »
Yes like it myself for really bad ones.
Am also impressed with Craftex Champion.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

CleanerCarpets

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 05:40:28 pm »
dry time was fine - i used a post bonnet after and it was a poly

maybe it was the acid rinse i was using, as i dont use one normally i used one that was maybe 12 months old and had been opened and so maybe wasnt as good as it needed to be, thats definitely the only thing i could put it down to - everything was done to best practises and i've never had drying issues as the carpet is never over wet

is a shame - seems like a good solution but definitely needs neutralizing well after otherwise i think it does resoil

derek west

Re: Wick back
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 06:19:55 pm »
use powerburst on every job, never had wick back. well once or twice but thats obviously not down to the powerburst.

wayne zabel

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 06:56:03 pm »
How do you all find Powerburst in comparison to Ultrapac Ren on Polyprops?

I always use Ultrapac on polyps and usually get good results but find it expensive in comparison to PB

derek west

Re: Wick back
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 07:13:41 pm »
youve just answered you own question wayne, pb is cheap, mixes well and does a top job, if its a bit greasy just add some citra boost. renovate is more for soot IMO.

davep

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 08:15:51 pm »
It will have been a big spill causing the wickback and not the PB.

I used to try the trucky on low profile but dont bother any more, bonnet is far better.

peter maybury

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Re: Wick back
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 11:57:58 pm »
It is normal for us to bonnet buff following extraction on low level loop tiles. It will remove marks that will not come out with the extraction, dries the carpet and gives a far better result that just one of the methods on its own. For the time that it takes it is worth the little bit of extra effort.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com