[Paul Coleman]

Well, the average wage for a windowcleaner was published as £14000 a year or two ago.

Looks like I won't bother with my tax returns any more  :

It sounds like that includes quite a few people who have other work and just do shining part time.

[Paul Coleman]

Unfortunately me and several others I actually have to pay tax. This is because we make a fair bit of money. My van initially cost me £6500 plus tank and fittings. Now unfortunately for me my profits still exceeded the capital expenditure by a fair margin. My start up costs were in excess of £10,000. I was still employed in the print trade - £35,000 pa. and I declared an earning from my window cleaning business. Hence I had to pay a hefty amount in tax and have done ever since.
I can only assume your business turnover is so poor that you can avoid tax, either that or you are operating a £30,000 van with a bucket in the back whilst claiming you are unemployed  :

£14,000 was a figure quoted in a national newspaper (not mine). The joke was that £14000 is a very poor wage and would be fine by me if the tax man thought that was what I earnt.

If someone has money behind them to live on, it's quite possible to spend enough of the profit on the business to avoid tax.  However, it would need to be pretty rapid expansion in order to spend enough to keep avoiding it.  I suppose tax would become an issue at the point someone decides they don't want to spend on any more growth.  personally, I need my income from window cleaning in order to live but that's not the case for everyone.

[Dave Willis]

Time to leave this thread for me. I have been totally honest with you Ewan, I have nothing to hide, I haven't bragged about my earnings, I have never mentioned how much I earn and never will on any forum.
I've told you how much my business cost to set up - I never spent any money on leaflets and did very little doorknocking. I told you I earn a fair bit of money - enough to pay tax on. That's all I've told you.
Diy? that's some kind of dig that doesn't bother me, yes i've diyed fishing poles in the past and brushes - so what? I tend to use professional equipment  these days because I prefer to have more robust kit. Nothing wrong with diy if you choose to go that way. I have a DIY gutter vacuum too simply because it's almost identical to the genuine article anyway and was much cheaper to build at the time even using top quality carbon tubes instead of  heavier inferior aluminium ones.
What else would you like to know? I'll give you my address and telephone number if you like - I am real.
It's a shame you choose to hide behind your computer screen and refuse to use a proper name or any business details.
As the title says - Why tell porkies 

[cozy]

Imagine if all you were on here to do was put down DIY because it effected your job. Imagine if you worked for a producer of WFP set-ups or pure water systems. What if your company spent loads of money advertising on-line and in a forum. If everyone got the idea that the company you worked for was overpriced and the same set-up could be had for a fraction of the price. Would you be worried?

Why do you think a person in that position would pretend to be a window licker cleaner? Now you can see what sort of person you're up against. It doesn't matter what you say, people like that will say they claim their sandwiches back off their tax and they can charge 35 quid for scraping an egg on some poor gits window

 To see that some Walter Mitty's are about. Just Google the Walter Mitty Syndrome, there's your answer. It's Ewan all over :

[Spencer Priory]

Why was my last post deleted ?

[cozy]

Why was my last post deleted ?

LOL, they only delete stuff on here after lots of thought and discussions  It's a very difficult decision, so I've been told. :

[Spencer Priory]

Why was my last post deleted ?

LOL, they only delete stuff on here after lots of thought and discussions  It's a very difficult decision, so I've been told. :

It was Deleted inside 5 minutes

[Spencer Priory]

Someone needs to look at whoever is deleting posts !

[Moderator David@stives]

Spencer

Did it contain swearing ?

I havent deleted any apart from obvious bad language.



What was the post about, remind me ?

[cozy]

Imagine if all you were on here to do was put down DIY because it effected your job. Imagine if you worked for a producer of WFP set-ups or pure water systems. What if your company spent loads of money advertising on-line and in a forum. If everyone got the idea that the company you worked for was overpriced and the same set-up could be had for a fraction of the price. Would you be worried?

Why do you think a person in that position would pretend to be a window licker cleaner? Now you can see what sort of person you're up against. It doesn't matter what you say, people like that will say they claim their sandwiches back off their tax and they can charge 35 quid for scraping an egg on some poor gits window

 To see that some Walter Mitty's are about. Just Google the Walter Mitty Syndrome, there's your answer. It's Ewan all over :

What’s the point of you?

Your don’t even use wfp

You're not even a window cleaner 

Oh! Deleting your posts again Ewan? If the C.P.S. ever charges you for being a window Licker cleaner, your case would be dropped, due to lack of evidence. :

[Dave Willis]

How Bizarre - every ewan post deleted?
Had to get rid of them before the boss logged on first thing this morning I suppose.

[cozy]

How Bizarre - every ewan post deleted?
Had to get rid of them before the boss logged on first thing this morning I suppose.

Who's his boss then Dave? National Car Parks? Because he isn't a window cleaner, that's for certain. :

[AuRavelling79]

It's certainly curious ... not only has Ewan done a big delete on this thread but my "where have Ewan's posts gone" thread has been deleted too!

Could cozy be on to something here? An Iconics plant? Ooooh - interesting ...

[geefree]

Some people come on here just to wind people up or , blatantly lie.

Why say they can clean x amount of houses in a day when they quite obviously cant?

Why say they earn x amount , when its clear they dont ( if you look back on their earlier posts)

i know things are possible, but generally earnings and topics like that should be taken tongue in cheek,

After all what right minded person would brag on a nationwide forum , what they earn?

Does that not say it all ?

A good business man never tells all and sundry how much he earns, nor how he became successful.

He leaves that admiration for others to wonder,!

Lets hear less of earnings talk please, its not good for anyone,

And it also gives out confusing signals to the new starters on here.

Who are likely to believe it   

[Spencer Priory]

Dreamers will allways be dreamers.

[cozy]

Ewan, You need to stop drinking afer 9 o'clock, you have to be at work tomorrow to make the tea. Off you go to bed and dream about actually being self employed like the real window cleaners on here.