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justin brown

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rotovac----advice needed please
« on: July 02, 2010, 09:29:12 pm »
just seen a video of the rotovac 360 in action and looks impressive! i know adverts will show you what they want you to see so thats why i am asking if anyone recommends them? recently i have had some really bad traffic lanes and this form of agitation/cleaning could be the answer? any help/advice is much appreciated.
i am here to learn and appreciate any help

justin brown

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 12:27:59 pm »
ANYONE?????????????? HELP PLEASE!!
i am here to learn and appreciate any help

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 04:50:17 pm »
Couple of things Justin.

I don't have a rotovac, so my advice may be way off the mark. Good use of the correct chemicals, adequate dwell time and good agitation are the key on traffic areas. You could use an Envirodri or alternate CRB machine, a rotary or even a good old grandi groomer hand rake, I use them all and each have their place but it is the distribution of the chemical to fibre and contact time which are the key. I've done some terrible black top with hot powerburst, 15 min dwell and rotary with brilliant results. Bare in mind also traffic areas by their very nature have taken much more traffic, wearing fibres, bending and twisting them so light is deflected rather than reflected. This would appear to make the carpet have darker patches or traffic lanes because it's opposed to how the pile naturally lays in adjacent areas. Most domestics I use a standard M/S or Chemspecs DFC 105 as pre spray, 10mins dwell and a carpet rake, rinse with warm water.  Now trying Fusion 8 with some very pleasing results.

Commercially a rotovac would make sense if your cleaning large areas, domestically get the best agitation machine you can afford and do the work before the rinse.

Cheers
Simon

justin brown

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 05:08:22 pm »
thanks simon, very helpful
i am here to learn and appreciate any help

Joe H

Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 07:03:54 pm »
Go on youtube and type in Rotovac 360 and you will see carpet cleaners using them - not adverts.


I agree with simonarena when he talks about main traffic areas will get fibre damage and can always look dirty even when clean.

Fintan_Coll

Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 10:51:34 pm »
Justin, what Simon says is very true, the correct prespray, dwell time and agitation are very important. I bought a Rotovac 360 very recently and have to say I am impressed. Now I have an Extracta Scrubba de luxe and a cylindrical type power brush which I bought via All Tec and I have made very little use of either recently . Good enough tools but better suited for large open areas. I have used the wand mostly and found it to be handier in use especially in small rooms.
However with advancing years I was finding the wand heavy going lately, hence my reason for buying a Rotovac 360.
To give you an example, today cleaned a living room carpet with the Rotovac, great result, effortless. Then I went upstairs to clean the carpet on the landing and hooked up the wand to save having to carry the Rotovac upstairs. OK , got it as clean as the carpet in the living room, BUT WITH A LOT MORE PHYSICAL EFFORT. Would have been easier in the long run to have carried the Rotovac upstairs.
 I guess everyone will have different reasons for buying or not buying a Rotovac. That was my reason.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 10:56:11 pm »
Finton what do you do about the adges and corners?

Looked at one when I was at Alltec yesterday and it still appeals to me.

Shaun

Fintan_Coll

Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 11:17:19 pm »
Edges and corners Shaun, yes you still got to do them with the wand or hand tool depending on the circumstances. I suppose that is one of the very few if only downside to the Rotovac, you simply cannot get right into the corners or edges. However it only takes minutes to do and then it's plain sailing.

justin brown

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 09:57:49 am »
thanks all. Would a numatic rotary cleaner like a LoLine Nll415 (i just looked this up on numatic website so dont really know much about it!) do a similar job? i really want something to agitate the really minging carpets i have come across lately and after looking at results on youtube that a rotary cleaner can get i thought it might be worth the investment?
i am here to learn and appreciate any help

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 12:32:10 am »
Yes, it's a slow rpm which i'd prefer and Vicol have it at a good price. The 3rd one down is under £300 and includes a tank, a drive board which is suitable for pads for agitation and bonnet cleaning. I would also add a shampoo brush which I think will scrub better. rotaries are versatile machines and it's all I used until buying the Envirodri. You may find one cheaper on Ebay or the for sale section here but with the warranty it's a good price.

mark_roberts

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Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 08:59:15 pm »
Finton

My 360 seems to drip a lot and flick the drips on the dry pass.

have you seen this with yours?

Other than that its great.

Mark

Joe H

Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 09:00:33 pm »
what pressure do you work at Mark

Fintan_Coll

Re: rotovac----advice needed please
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 10:53:59 pm »
Not really Mark, but then I only got it last Thursday, used it also on Friday, Saturday and today, everything seems to be allright.