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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: indi-clean on September 04, 2009, 02:57:53 pm
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hi there.
I need a second machine to work with the steampro powermax. i find the powermax lacks a bit of suction strength when used with the 12in wand (ive ordered a 7inch to try). The choice seems to be between the ninja or the extracta exel.
Anyone out-there operate/recommend either of these machines?
It must be a portable.
Thanks, Graham.
Indi-Clean.com
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Before I got my truckmount three months ago I used my extracta excell for three years and loved it ,it hardly ever let me down ,easy to fix and replace motors and pumps and my customers thought it looked impressive and there is good back up from extracta in Gateshead, highly recomend
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Make sure you check out the weight of some of these porties.
I recently bought a new Ninja that weighs in at 45kg and that's a handful in itself.
Seen some, I think it's the Altec, come in at arouind the 63kg mark.
Just a thought.
John
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Extracta Exel.
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Graham
I would also look at the power-flite pfx1085 been using it for about 3weeks nice bit of kit coupled with the right wand, puts my 135psi to shame as John said weight cost extra money ;)
Len
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You aren't really going to gain that much power over your Powermax unless you go for the high power models. If you go with twin van and 135psi you may as well stick with what you've got.
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Someone is selling aSpeedster in buy and sell. That will be a step up for you at the right price (assuming it's as described)
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Why not just buy an entry level truck mount and equip yourself with the real McCoy?
A Truck Mount will earn you far more money and make the initial outlay seem like small change.
Simon
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What's a truckmount major ?.
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There's a Blazer for sale in buy and sell too. It's a couple of grand ish.
You need a minimum of a swb transit size van and allow at least another 1k for odds and sods and repairs.
Simon is right and it's the route I took but it doesn't suit everybody's current circumstances.
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Something that is Titanically more powerful than that thing you've got, baldy!!! ;D
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Quote it must be a portable unquote! Prowler methinks, don’t know the exchange rates. ;)
Len
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Len
Stop being picky. ;D
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Well I'm very happy with my Ninja. It's got all the bells and whistles but by gum it's heavy. But you get used to that. I have no experience of the other machines so I cannot comment.
And just to add grist to the mill of the discussion....
I have no intention of ever getting a tm. I'm too near to retirement (all being well) to make it worth my while. Do I give the best ever clean? I don't know and I don't care. But I do give what my clients want which is a clean carpet at a price they are happy to pay and have me back again and again on a regular basis and recommend me to their friends. Perhaps it's because I do a good job; perhaps they just like me; perhaps it's some other reason all together but as we all know it's the operator that counts.
It's not a case of porty=bad, TM=good, because the debate would centre around the continuum of machines whereby some top-end portys may be better than an entry level TM-especially then the operator is taken into consideration.
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is it just me but the Extracta Exel looks a tad ugly? lol ok maybe a bad choice of words. but defo looks dated!
i've read a lot of good things about the ninja tho.
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Graham
I would also look at the power-flite pfx1085 been using it for about 3weeks nice bit of kit coupled with the right wand, puts my 135psi to shame as John said weight cost extra money ;)
Len
What about this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230373351994&rvr_id=&mfe=sidebar, also not in your list but Alltec TV, Airflex Pro, and Solutions Scorpion are triple vac machines with high psi pumps, might be worth a thought.
Simon
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power filtes are good, i've used them before. are the pumps reliable?? i know that they cost £1000+ vat. suppose i'f they last 600 plus hours of use it anit so bad when one goes out after a couple of years.
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Are you sure it is to do with the wand.? It could be the loss of vac power is down to the soil tank lid seal wearing and allowing air to enter causing loss of power. ???
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power filtes are good, i've used them before. are the pumps reliable?? i know that they cost £1000+ vat. suppose i'f they last 600 plus hours of use it anit so bad when one goes out after a couple of years.
Sorry not used one myself, just happened across it on ebay. I suspect if you service them regularly they will last
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Hi Guys
My Extracta Excel cost more in relacement vacs and pumps than I used in chemicals.
Only buy if you are prepared to replace both vacs at least yearly.
Cheers
Doug
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Mike
Not picky look at the type of work Graham dose as per Simon but a bit more up-market ;D ;)
Len
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;D
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The way I see it with a high end porti is that with a lower flow rate but with a V2 heater mate or equivalent and superior vac than your normal 2 vac machine then you'll get just a good a clean but may take longer to do (forgetting any set up set down debate) infact if you have a super heated system with some rinse detergent in the tank you could even get a drier carpet as you should be picking up more water in a linear TM flushing competition.
Trouble is with 3 vacs a 500psi pump and a heat exchanger how many plugs are needed?
Over to Roger ;D
Shaun
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So you can have a 3 vac Ninja with a 400psi+ pump and a V2 (guessing that would have to be built in to operate the rocker) with 2 cables?
Shaun
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Sorry Shaun, I totally didn't read the question properly..... I'll consider my wrists slapped ;D ;D ;D
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You naughty naughty boy ;D
So are we saying that it does need 3 plugs to operate 3 vacs a big pump and a heater?
Shaun
PS I have purchased some water tanks and a hose reel and was planning to make a 2nd system up 4 x 4 mount it in a hilux (I have a willing Xmas helper)
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I would have said so because the in line heater runs independantly doesn't it? I've never used one as the Altec and the exel had heaters fitted!