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Title: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 05:38:20 pm
when your selling a window cleaning round how do you decide what its worth
a/ monthly takings x 5 or 10 or 20
b/ just pick a number and double it
c/  work out how much it earns per hr
do differant areas have differant ways of pricing rounds very confusing to me any advice please
 thanks mick
 ps iv looked on wforsale and theres no set pattern to what people are chargeing
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: jonnyald on August 12, 2009, 06:48:31 pm
the ones who charge 10 x   are  the greedy-  just thinkabout it, you will be working(hard) for 10 long months before you start earning anything . in those ten months you could have door knocked a Million houses and built your round from scratch easily and earnt as you worked too
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 06:54:33 pm
traditional round all close together 4-5 days to clean taking £500 a month he,s asking £8000  :o what you think of that
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: jonnyald on August 12, 2009, 06:59:11 pm
8 grand !       if i was you i would draw 80 quid a day out of your bank account and give it to yourself after youve spent each day door knocking .     i bet after 100 days of door knocking you will have a proper round far far bigger than the tiddler that guys selling  AND STILL HAVE YOUR 8 GRAND TOO !!
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Alistair@AWC on August 12, 2009, 06:59:41 pm
Not a chance, x16 the price on poorly priced work!
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: rl on August 12, 2009, 07:02:41 pm
To me most rounds that I see for sale seems very cheap when you compare them to buying another type of business, the two extremes I've seen are the guy on dragons den the other day that sold a £6000 a month round for £16000 and then theres a round for sale online, £9000 a month, asking price £100,000.

To me your buying/selling a business, not just a round, and all your hard work. Obviously your round/business is only worth what someone will pay.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 07:05:07 pm
i seid id pay 6x monthly ie £3000 just to get going [estabilished] in this game and seid thats top doller the way i see it he seid no it my business i,ll decide the price and reckens he could get 20 x so im out
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: martinsadie on August 12, 2009, 07:08:07 pm
traditional round all close together 4-5 days to clean taking £500 a month he,s asking £8000  :o what you think of that
expensive
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Alistair@AWC on August 12, 2009, 07:11:53 pm
You can ask top dollar when its top priced work!
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 07:14:35 pm
i know about good will when you sell a business but there must be a benchmark iv seen another round selling for £8000 that was taking more than 3x his and included van and equipment [not my area] but you see my point ?
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Clive McDonald on August 12, 2009, 07:41:25 pm
You are not going to get what you want mick. Old boys packing up will be underpriced, compact good priced work will be clung onto, small outlying chunks may be dumped for top dollar.

You need to get lucky, but the chances are that you won't, and will just be seen as a mark.

Buying someones business would be safest providing everything stacks up.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: stephen s on August 12, 2009, 07:46:35 pm
To me most rounds that I see for sale seems very cheap when you compare them to buying another type of business, the two extremes I've seen are the guy on dragons den the other day that sold a £6000 a month round for £16000 and then theres a round for sale online, £9000 a month, asking price £100,000.

To me your buying/selling a business, not just a round, and all your hard work. Obviously your round/business is only worth what someone will pay.











no your not       your buying good will and thats it nothing else,  someone can come along and undercut you on every job and bang your a gonner.

there is no contract to say those customers belong to you and you only and they can drop you in an instant and theres absolutely nothing you can do about it.

good will thats all it is
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Paul_Rolfe on August 12, 2009, 08:15:02 pm
x3 seems fair.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: aiminvestor on August 12, 2009, 08:21:37 pm
traditional round all close together 4-5 days to clean taking £500 a month he,s asking £8000  :o what you think of that

Far too expensive IMO.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Rob.Hall on August 12, 2009, 08:59:33 pm
Toooo much doe matty..........

Hes havin a laugh!!! ;D
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 09:11:37 pm
yep over priced im out need to get cards/leaflets sorted get my own work!
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: aiminvestor on August 12, 2009, 09:15:38 pm
yep over priced im out need to get cards/leaflets sorted get my own work!

Just what I did today, should be printed within a week.

Doing itself sounds best, IMO
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Helen on August 12, 2009, 10:02:14 pm
the ones who charge 10 x   are  the greedy-  just thinkabout it, you will be working(hard) for 10 long months before you start earning anything . in those ten months you could have door knocked a Million houses and built your round from scratch easily and earnt as you worked too
Very shortsighted opinion. You could be buying the perfect business....who knows. In tens months you may have doorknocked and got nothing and earnt nothing.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: tony talbot on August 12, 2009, 10:15:47 pm
try building your own before buying its a lot more satisfying
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 12, 2009, 10:17:49 pm
Quote from: Helen link=topic=79381.msg697798#msg697798  
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Very shortsighted opinion. You could be buying the perfect business....who knows. In tens months you may have doorknocked and got nothing and earnt nothing.
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you are entitled to your opinion but do seem to be on your own in that opinion [its to expensive at 16 times the monthly takings and low paying round]
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: Helen on August 12, 2009, 10:55:38 pm
Quote from: Helen link=topic=79381.msg697798#msg697798  
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Very shortsighted opinion. You could be buying the perfect business....who knows. In tens months you may have doorknocked and got nothing and earnt nothing.
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you are entitled to your opinion but do seem to be on your own in that opinion [its to expensive at 16 times the monthly takings and low paying round]
"Very Shortsighted opinion" was aimed at the greedy comment. Just because someone wants to charge high for their hard work and good business does not make them greedy. If it is a good business (and a buyer has to check this out) then you should charge high for it.
I agree 16 times is too much for that low paid work and i would not even bother wasting my time wondering if I should buy or not.
Any business not only window cleaning, is goodwill no matter what contracts or not that may be in place. There are so many different things to take into consideration, and as with most things in life everything should be judged on it's own individual merit.
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: jonnyald on August 13, 2009, 05:55:04 am
unless you live in the Outer Hebrides  or look like the Elephant Man, door knocking for TEN  whole months will result in a hell of a big round, id bet on that .
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 13, 2009, 06:49:53 am
unless you live in the Outer Hebrides  or look like the Elephant Man, door knocking for TEN  whole months will result in a hell of a big round, id bet on that .
problem as i see it is everyone seems to already have a cleaner so i feel its going to be an uphill struggle getting anyone but iv seen these round builders advertising whats the script with them surely thay have the same problem iv got and can only go door to door and 99.9% have a cleaner
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: mick partington on August 13, 2009, 07:02:28 am
[quote author=Helen link=topic=79381.msg697852#msg697852 

"Very Shortsighted opinion" was aimed at the greedy comment. Just because someone wants to charge high for their hard work and good business does not make them greedy. If it is a good business (and a buyer has to check this out) then you should charge high for it.
I agree 16 times is too much for that low paid work and i would not even bother wasting my time wondering if I should buy or not.
Any business not only window cleaning, is goodwill no matter what contracts or not that may be in place. There are so many different things to take into consideration, and as with most things in life everything should be judged on it's own individual merit.
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agreed some deals just cant be done
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: jonnyald on August 13, 2009, 07:50:07 am
and 99.9% have a cleaner
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 im suprised to hear that, where is it u live mick?    i  only know that in my region which is  coastal towns in suffolk theres gaps everywhere .not usually whole streets ,but one house here and one there ,its just a case of finding them. once youve found one, and are seen cleaning it, the curtain twitchers along that street will check you out and  normally they get on your bandwagon too and thats how it goes . theres alot of funny buggers out there window cleaning and as long as you smile and are friendly you will  be allrite .
Title: Re: how much you want mate ?
Post by: stephen s on August 13, 2009, 08:48:25 am
Cant agree more Johnny,

far to many grumpy window cleaners out there who are only interested in getting job done as quick as poss and getting money off customer.

personality goes a long long way and good communication with your customers is worth its weight in gold,     even if it means your there an extra 10 mins  because customer fancies a chat then you oblige.

I know there are grumpy and hard to get along with customers ( thats life )   but there are also lots of good ones and they deserved to be treated that way,      look after them and they will always recommend you to other people,   especially people who have a grumpy window cleaner with a chip on their shoulder.