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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wind0wcleaner on August 12, 2009, 12:28:23 pm

Title: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: wind0wcleaner on August 12, 2009, 12:28:23 pm
Are the flocked dual trim brushes more thickly bristled than the normal dual trim brushes from Gardiners?

Thanks.

Matt
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 01:23:53 pm
Alex is at work but he's just dictated the following:

'The flocked bristle brush has the same number of bristle bunches and the same pattern as the monofilament brush.  However, each bristle bunch has slightly more individual bristles in it due to fractionally thinner bristle shafts.  Also, the end of each bristle bunch has the appearance of being denser due to the flocked nature of the bristle ends.'

Mrs A
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: GWCS on August 12, 2009, 01:31:10 pm
Thankyou for the answer. Very interesting to know and informative for everyone.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: JSMC on August 12, 2009, 01:48:04 pm
what type of brush suits clenaing down upvc?  re dvikans dont seem to scrub to good
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: GWCS on August 12, 2009, 01:50:34 pm
what type of brush suits clenaing down upvc?  re dvikans dont seem to scrub to good

flocked for upvc cladding etc! more scrubbing power and less likely to scratch.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: drwindows on August 12, 2009, 07:02:02 pm
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flocked for upvc cladding etc! more scrubbing power and less likely to scratch

more scrubbing power with flocked?  I dont think so.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Clive McDonald on August 12, 2009, 07:25:40 pm
i had a flier from griggs, it looked like the same brush on a cheap pole?
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 07:35:51 pm
i had a flier from griggs, it looked like the same brush on a cheap pole?

Definitely not the same brush, although it is the same colour  :)
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 07:41:36 pm
You know what they say.........

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The brush  that Griggs has on one of their poles has been around for longer than the Super-Lite it is made by Salmon and is very different in character and weight (440g). I bought and used one for a couple of hours a few years back. It is also listed on page 21 of the Varitech catalogue (which is the same as the Griggs one).
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Clive McDonald on August 12, 2009, 08:09:04 pm
The thin stock looked the same, i just wondered if it was the same apart from the gardiners label. At least i asked the question and you were able to provide an answer.It must have been a thought that others have had.

I was a bit wary of getting a supalite brush because as ewan commented- uncharacteristiclly knowledgably- the bentley was rubbish.Mac mac posted on how good it was and i nearly got some but price negotiations didn't seem to be something you enetered into enthusiastically.

Anyhow i got one with the slx, a monofilament and you fitted some fan jets to it.I was very surprised at just how good both the brush and jets were.You sent another at the same time and this went onto the 17'xtel of my helper.Both of us noticed a huge improvement over the vikans we had been using. Lighter and more adept at getting under ledges without the thick stock of a vikan it also had more 'flickage' with the bristles being longer.Because of this flexibility in the bristles i am also happier using it on historic and old leaded glass where previously i had used a flocked vikan. I shall be sticking with the monofilament with fan jets as my brush of choice from now on.

Now that i've got one i definitely think it was worth the money along with the extra for fan jets.I need some money in the kitty to get a couple more poles, but i worry as soon as i have purchased you will announce a sale.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 08:31:01 pm
The thin stock looked the same, i just wondered if it was the same apart from the gardiners label. At least i asked the question and you were able to provide an answer.It must have been a thought that others have had.

I was a bit wary of getting a supalite brush because as ewan commented- uncharacteristiclly knowledgably- the bentley was rubbish.Mac mac posted on how good it was and i nearly got some but price negotiations didn't seem to be something you enetered into enthusiastically.

Anyhow i got one with the slx, a monofilament and you fitted some fan jets to it.I was very surprised at just how good both the brush and jets were.You sent another at the same time and this went onto the 17'xtel of my helper.Both of us noticed a huge improvement over the vikans we had been using. Lighter and more adept at getting under ledges without the thick stock of a vikan it also had more 'flickage' with the bristles being longer.Because of this flexibility in the bristles i am also happier using it on historic and old leaded glass where previously i had used a flocked vikan. I shall be sticking with the monofilament with fan jets as my brush of choice from now on.

Now that i've got one i definitely think it was worth the money along with the extra for fan jets.I need some money in the kitty to get a couple more poles, but i worry as soon as i have purchased you will announce a sale.

Don't worry - no sale on the horizon for poles or brushes  ;)
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 08:43:39 pm
How about a white bristled dual trim flocked please? Or what about a combination brush - flocked outer and single trim inner?
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 09:38:31 pm
How about a white bristed dual trim flocked please? Or what about a combination brush - flocked outer and single trim inner?

You get the colours you're given - remember the poll we did a while back?  :D

The flocked brush has always had flocked outer bristles and mono-filament inner bristles.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 09:42:02 pm
Has it really? I must pay more attention in class.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 09:42:54 pm
Has it really? I must pay more attention in class.

I had to double check and get a brush out the van!
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 09:45:28 pm
Alex, is the 40' Supermax feasable as an every day pole? Has the SLX grown another section in it's third model?
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 12, 2009, 09:47:49 pm
It is feasible but I wouldn't want to.  Essentially it has two sections extra when compared to the previous 30ft (6 section) SL-X.  What is feasible though is buying a Super-Max40 and removing three sections, fitting a smaller end cap and having a 25ft pole for most of the time with the extra sections when required.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 10:03:03 pm
How do you overcome the hose transfer when you want a quick section change do you use a John Guest inline connector to save trying to thread the hose down the pole or stick a double barb in the pipe?
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 10:03:50 pm
No just unplug the push fit valve  ::)
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: ftp on August 12, 2009, 10:16:12 pm
I've got another one  ;)
Can a thirty foot SLX be upgraded to a 35' SLX by buying an extra section? Would it be a top or bottom section and what would it cost?
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 13, 2009, 08:57:09 am
How do you overcome the hose transfer when you want a quick section change do you use a John Guest inline connector to save trying to thread the hose down the pole or stick a double barb in the pipe?

As you've answered for yourself, if I do this I unplug the hose from the push fit valve, slide sections on and off and re-connect.  If you don't have a push fit valve, we do sell straight 8mm to 8mm JG push fit connectors which can be added to your hose.

To be honest, I used to do this when I only had the 30ft SL-X but now I have the smaller selection in the van, I don't bother doing it I just grab a smaller pole.


I've got another one  ;)
Can a thirty foot SLX be upgraded to a 35' SLX by buying an extra section? Would it be a top or bottom section and what would it cost?

Yes, it can be by buying a spare base section for a 35ft SL-X.  In fact this section would extend either of the previous SL-X models.  Give us a few weeks and we'll have the full range of spares available on the website.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: boshravie on August 13, 2009, 09:48:50 am
Hi Alex
Can you possibly make a video of the new supper max ?
It will be great to see it in operation and I am sure everyone on the forum would be happy to see it hence more sale for you. :)

Regards,
Bosh
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 13, 2009, 10:27:11 am
Hi Alex
Can you possibly make a video of the new supper max ?
It will be great to see it in operation and I am sure everyone on the forum would be happy to see it hence more sale for you. :)

Regards,
Bosh


When I get  a moment I will arrange this. I was thinking about this yesterday as something to put on my list.
Title: Re: NOT for the attention of Alex Gardiner, but he's welcome to answer
Post by: boshravie on August 13, 2009, 10:31:03 am
Great Alex :)

We are in the same wave of thinking ;)

P.S. I am now saving my money to get one of these .

Regard
Bosh