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Title: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: oasisdweeb on May 17, 2008, 09:29:49 am
i fill a 300ltr tank at home.a couple of times this wk the hose has come off so there has been water flowing out.most of it has been going against my neighboroughs wall and into his garden..ive tightened the hose up and showed him the problem.he seemed ok with it,but this is the neighborough that has fell out with every1 on our street,and knows everyones buissness.i wouldnt put it past him to ring the water board and complain about wasting water.if he did,can they force you to go on a water meter.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: simon knight on May 17, 2008, 09:35:12 am

If the water usage is purely for domestic purposes then I would say no.

But for commercial use I reckon they could.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: oasisdweeb on May 17, 2008, 02:22:58 pm
all domestic.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: mr D on May 17, 2008, 02:34:13 pm
i would of thought the water board can make you do what ever they want. its there water and they decide if they surply to you or not im affrade.

at the moment the goverment are pushing for every property in the uk to be on a meter to stop wastage.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: daveappleby on May 17, 2008, 05:45:16 pm
i have read that you have to infrom the water board if you are using an ro system as they use up alot of water?

must get around to doing that some day...... :o
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: windowwashers on May 17, 2008, 05:49:37 pm
If you are using water for business I am think you will be told to go on a water meter, I got a visit from them and I had a water meter installed before I changed to wfp ::)
Some busy body that did not have there facts straight.

Ian
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 17, 2008, 06:23:21 pm
They CANT  make you even if it is for wfp
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: tompoole on May 17, 2008, 06:44:23 pm
If you are a business then yes you will be expected to go on a meter. If they do make you you can always recyle bath water and any waste water sounds like hasstle but you would be entyitled to a rebate , I will be doing this . Also if you are a business and on a meter they won't be able to stop you working wfp when we have a drought
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: oasisdweeb on May 17, 2008, 10:00:49 pm
so.wat sort of bills do u get if u go on meter.im trolley and use 10 25ltr tubs a day.my wife use s more than that just for her baths.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: steve.ternent on May 17, 2008, 10:10:05 pm
 :) Try using rainwater there's no waste and it Environmentally FRIENDLY / GREEN  8)

Just a tip though don't use green water!  ;)

Won't help the BIGGER boy's but if your a small business like me it will!  ;D  :D  ;)
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: NWH on May 17, 2008, 10:17:43 pm
They CANT  make you even if it is for wfp
They can`t,you go on a meter in the first place if you don`t use much as it will save you money.On new properties they all have meters now.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: windowwashers on May 17, 2008, 10:19:12 pm
:) Try using rainwater there's no waste and it Environmentally FRIENDLY / GREEN  8)

Just a tip though don't use green water!  ;)

Won't help the BIGGER boy's but if your a small business like me it will!  ;D  :D  ;)
depends how big roof space you have I guess  ;) I would maybe get 20l a day lol
 
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 10:24:00 pm
:) Try using rainwater there's no waste and it Environmentally FRIENDLY / GREEN  8)

Just a tip though don't use green water!  ;)

Won't help the BIGGER boy's but if your a small business like me it will!  ;D  :D  ;)
depends how big roof space you have I guess  ;) I would maybe get 20l a day lol
 
How much rainwater could be harvested in a year ?  From the gutters to a tank ?  I would love to know the figures  ;D
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on May 17, 2008, 10:25:37 pm
short answer to this is NO
if you dont already have a meter then the water company cant make you have one
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: windowwashers on May 17, 2008, 10:31:23 pm
:) Try using rainwater there's no waste and it Environmentally FRIENDLY / GREEN  8)

Just a tip though don't use green water!  ;)

Won't help the BIGGER boy's but if your a small business like me it will!  ;D  :D  ;)
depends how big roof space you have I guess  ;) I would maybe get 20l a day lol
 
How much rainwater could be harvested in a year ?  From the gutters to a tank ?  I would love to know the figures  ;D
depends on how much it rains   ;)
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: steve.ternent on May 17, 2008, 10:35:47 pm
:) Try using rainwater there's no waste and it Environmentally FRIENDLY / GREEN  8)

Just a tip though don't use green water!  ;)

Won't help the BIGGER boy's but if your a small business like me it will!  ;D  :D  ;)
depends how big roof space you have I guess  ;) I would maybe get 20l a day lol
 
How much rainwater could be harvested in a year ?  From the gutters to a tank ?  I would love to know the figures  ;D

I'm sorry I don't know, all I can say is I have a 500lt tank and its always overflowing soon after a fair rain.  8)
In the winter nearly always full  ;D
I am just in the process of purchasing two 1000lt ibc tanks to catch it all!

Keeping it clean is the key use filter/sieve to stop muck going into tank!

Summer so far has emptied my tanks (but no problems thats what the ro's for)  8)
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: tomy jackson on May 18, 2008, 10:08:43 am
o yes they can & anyone who thinks otherwise is badly misstaken or ill formed
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: oasisdweeb on May 18, 2008, 08:28:09 pm
can we get back to the topic now pls, and us from nottm dont talk with a funny accent         me ducks!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: NBwcs on May 19, 2008, 11:34:36 pm
I worked for Anglian Water in " metering" for seven years before redundancy pushed me into becoming a Wc. I can asure you that they very much can put any business on a water meter and will actively pursue any business that is deemed to use water within its business process, ie hairdressers etc. We definately fall into that category. You'd be surprised just how much "power" the water companys have with the water bye laws.
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: simon knight on May 20, 2008, 07:06:29 am

I'm inclined to agree with Nick. But when all's said and done if you're not sure why not just phone the water company and ask them?
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: tomy jackson on May 20, 2008, 07:19:25 am
and dont use home pone as you may well end up on one
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: simon knight on May 20, 2008, 07:26:53 am

Of course don't tell them who you are....call from a public phone box!
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: windowwashers on May 20, 2008, 07:32:23 am

Of course don't tell them who you are....call from a public phone box!
Do they still have public phone boxs :-\ one in my road has not worked for over a year ::)
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: Xline Systems on May 20, 2008, 10:43:33 am
a bloke round our way was fourced to switch to a water meter. hes the locol bin cleaner
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 20, 2008, 12:25:23 pm
no no no no
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: Xline Systems on May 20, 2008, 12:42:22 pm
wonder why he wasd forced to change then? :-\
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: djhaydn on July 02, 2008, 04:27:57 pm
finally some poope has grassed me up to anglian water and i have to go on a water meter in august, worked it out that i will be about £150 worse off, never mind my prices will have to go up to cover it.
haydn
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: poleman on July 02, 2008, 04:56:37 pm
Its that per year worse off! I pay one pound per cubic metre which is a 1000 litres

I would speak with www.ofwat.gov.uk 
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: poleman on July 02, 2008, 05:04:05 pm
Can a company insist that I pay by meter?


In my existing home?

Companies can install meters in properties, but cannot insist that the existing householder pays by volume, except in certain specified circumstances which are set out in the legislation.

For instance, where a householder:
uses a sprinkler;
automatically fills a swimming pool;
has a large bath;
uses a reverse osmosis softening unit;
has a power shower; or
lives in an area of water scarcity.
The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs makes decisions about whether or not an area is 'an area of water scarcity'. At present only Folkestone and Dover Water has been declared an area of water scarcity.

In the past, some companies fitted meters to properties that had been altered or extended. Companies can no longer impose a meter on a customer in these circumstances. Some companies may, however, charge customers in altered properties, on the basis of a notional rateable value or an assessed charge.

Can my water company insist that I have a meter installed in my new home?

Water companies are entitled to install a water meter in a property when there is a change in occupancy as long as they have not yet issued a bill to the new occupier. They can then charge the new occupiers for water and sewerage services on a metered basis (the Water Industry 1991, section 144B, as amended by the Water Industry Act 1999).

Most companies install meters in new properties.

Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: djhaydn on July 02, 2008, 06:11:12 pm
Its that per year worse off! I pay one pound per cubic metre which is a 1000 litres


cheers for that poleman, i currently pay just under £400 for my domestic bill, i use on average 3000 ltrs of pure water per month, this does not include my wastage which is the same again, so i tried to work my figures out via anglian water green business tariff, not sure if i done it right but this was the figure i came out with... £546 per year,

reading your post does this mean yes they can or no they cant make me have one?

Haydn
Title: Re: can water board force u to go on a water meter
Post by: poleman on July 02, 2008, 06:19:16 pm
Its that per year worse off! I pay one pound per cubic metre which is a 1000 litres


cheers for that poleman, i currently pay just under £400 for my domestic bill, i use on average 3000 ltrs of pure water per month, this does not include my wastage which is the same again, so i tried to work my figures out via anglian water green business tariff, not sure if i done it right but this was the figure i came out with... £546 per year,

reading your post does this mean yes they can or no they cant make me have one?

Haydn

It would mean they can make you have a meter, because of the RO you use (see bold text) I am lucky at the moment as I am not on a meter, however I have a Merlin RO which has a lot of waste! if I had to go on a meter than the least waste water RO would be a 40 / 40 RO which I think is only about 30% keep in mind if your sewerage charges! if they are linked to how much water you use then they will go up as well

 
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Post by: tomy jackson on July 02, 2008, 06:59:39 pm
you can clame swege back