Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: *paul_moss on December 24, 2007, 02:22:49 pm
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I would like to take this opportunity to mentor 2 guys for a year.
This is for some body newish to the industry who wants to make it work. Must have at last a year under their belt and have a bit of fire in their belly.
I will share how over the past 3 years I have been able to turn this trade into a nice earning business.
Covering cleaning techniques, marketing, pricing and full support.
Any body interested in this contact me.
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Paul
Well done that man
This is something that is very close to heart and I often say I want to be actively involved.
I have also built a very succesful external cleaning business that has had to be separated into two .
We have also diversified into a completely different field and are developing a third avenue as I write this.
If I had mentors when I left school I would have done all this much earlier on in life but they weren't there.
Went into a local school this year as part of a industry day where they involve local business in showing the kids a bigger picture.
We should pass on our knowledge
Rob ;D
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Hi Paul,
Do you mean someone local to you that you can visit and meet regularly or to provide your support via email and phone?
I would certainly be interested if it is the latter.
I am away now for a couple of days but will contact you then if that's ok.
Myself and my partner have been up and running for just over a year now covering various aspects of cleaning. Whilst I want to keep all sides of the business running I am very keen to develop the carpet and upholstery side of things over the next year or two.
I will be in touch after Boxing Day.
Regards
Simon
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Paul
I too would be interested as I feel I could learn much from you about all areas of the business.
Pete
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Paul sent u email
george
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Paul
I think I fit the criteria, really could do with some help and advice to get throu the coming year
Thanks John
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John,
Good luck with your application to Paul. If you are unsuccessful and seeing as you spent a day with me last year, I will offer you the same, I know you want to do the job properly, so its there if you want it. Let me know.
Dave.
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I would strongly advise anyone to check the credentials of any person who is charging for a mentioning service.
If the person or persons mentioning know how to run a business they will have no problem releasing three years accounts for you to see before letting them advise you on how to run your company.
Any tom Dick or harry could run in to difficulty in there own business and diversify into this sort of thing quite easily to make a quick buck.
Obviously, if its a FREE service I apologise wholeheartedly Paul.
Matt
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matt whats the three years accounts for, sounds like green eyes to me
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Matt
You have to be sceptical in this business, because as you say thre are too many people out there ready to make a buck on you.
Im glad Dave Lee has added a helping offer out to John as they have already spent some time together, Dave is very experienced and runs a very sucessful business so should be vry benefical to Johns achievments. There are are lots of guys on here that can and im sure will now the ball has started rolling will mentor people this year.
Just to clarify my angle in this, I dont aim to make any money out of it, it is just an honest invitation to help a couple of guys out that may be struggling to get there.
Alot of my info can be seen on my web site and there are a lot of guys on the forum who know me personally, I dont hide anything including my profile ( Matt I note yours is void of info ;))
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Typical Sagittarian ;) ;D
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Gary I am also a Sagittarian :D
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Hi Guys
This was tried in Pros by Trevor but never really got off the ground.
It is very generous of Paul and Dave to offer this and they will both be excellent .
Cheers
Doug
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Gary I am also a Sagittarian :D
I know you are, I'm not, I'm a Gemini, but I don't believe in all that, I think it's a load of Taurus ;D
Just thought offering to be a mentor was a typical Sagittarian thing to do.
I prefer to be a tormentor ;) :)
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Hi Guys
I'm Taurus ;)
Cheers
Doug
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This sounds like a great idea, i have been cleaning just over a year and would grasp an opportunity like that with both hands.. I would like to be in a position to do the same myself one day.
Im in Liverpool and am wiling to travel to learn..
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A bold gesture, Mr Moss and to be applauded, but, although I rarely agree with Matt, he has struck a chord and whether you are offering something FREE, or otherwise, we are living in a sad world, with litigation issues appearing from the most innocent of actions.
I would look seriously at some form of indemnity, or disclaimer, to protect you, because, with the best intentions and while trying to avoid endangering people, or property, THINGS DO GO WRONG.
Unfortunately, it's usually to person who is doing the favour, who gets clobbered.
We are involved in training activities in our Care business and the legislation / monitoring / reviews/ compliance procedures are getting worse by the year.
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the info on pauls website is all old hat and been done a millions times b4. CANT POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHO ON EARTH WOULD GIVE THERE HARD EARNED INFO OVER FOR NOTHING, THATS STUPID, WHO ARE YOU, FATHER BLOODY CHRISTMAS?I hope whoever you decide to mentor truly does have some fire in his belly cos this business is tough, really tough if you want to be around for a long time, if he falls flat on his/her face it won't make you look so good then.....will it.
Having said that i wish you and your mentoree the best of luck, and look forward with batet breath and amusement as to the results....!
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I love it when the ******** idiots come on the board, they think we dont know who they are:D.
I will meet one of them face to face one day and that will be fun >:(
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Thanks to all who responded and other kind posts.
Will see in a year if it has been beneficial to the 2 guys concerned.
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With comments like"this business is tough,really tough",they must be doing something very wrong.
Personally I think the cc business is easy,you don't need A levels and you don't even need to get your hands dirty.
If someone offers to help others that may need a bit of an extra push in the right direction,that should be commended not condemned.
I am sure there are excellent carpet cleaners on here that are not particularly good business managers,and may need advice on how to promote themselves and their business.-John
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I think its an extremly kind offer
Mr. John Thomas seems to me a very nasty person, does he know what these forums are for? are you here just to take to help yourself?
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A great offer from Mr Moss,if at all possible i would like to be part of it.
Paul, a belated thanks for the pub work in July a really good month for me.
Don't get sucked in by the negative tossers!
cheers
Paul
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Ironically, Mike Boxall the site sponsor, has just posted a raft of training events, something many have been requesting, on a regular basis.
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Smithy give us a ring.
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I'd also like to help as I think this is a good idea. I'd like to take two people under my wing for a year and help them to read and write, the course will also include correct use of grammar. So if anyone is interested in learning how to speak and write properly give me a ring and leave a grunt on the answerphone. No point in sending an email as I probably wouldn't be able to decipher it :P.
And if there is anyone who would like to mentor me the criteria I am in looking for in my Guru is:-
Must be earning at least a million a year, net.
Have at least 4 cars, one of which is a Ferrari Enzo.
Live in a multi-million pound mansion and have a large villa in Marbella.
;D
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Paul I think you need to be very careful who you decide to mentor, like you say you are going to show someone how you have achieved success and I would presume you are going to ask them to copy the systems you have in place to emulate your success.
this in my opinion is a flawed strategy, areas & people are different, I don't believe if someone in the Scottish highlands ( or central London) did exactly same as me they would achieve my success.
Also my business strategies would not work for someone who wanted to concentrate on cultivating a business serving mainly commercial customers.
whoever you mentor need to be like you and live in a similar geographical area so your business practices can be copied with success.
I'm making a lot of assumption in this post so if I'm off target I apologise
Mike
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No Mike your correct,in part anyway.
Thats why I need info on the people who were interested,however most can be adapted.
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I'd also like to help as I think this is a good idea. I'd like to take two people under my wing for a year and help them to read and write, the course will also include correct use of grammar. So if anyone is interested in learning how to speak and write properly give me a ring and leave a grunt on the answerphone. No point in sending an email as I probably wouldn't be able to decipher it :P.
And if there is anyone who would like to mentor me the criteria I am in looking for in my Guru is:-
Must be earning at least a million a year, net.
Have at least 4 cars, one of which is a Ferrari Enzo.
Live in a multi-million pound mansion and have a large villa in Marbella.
;D
LOL good post ;D
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Hi Paul merry xmas!
This is a truly amazing offer and will help a couple of lucky people tremendously.
You have helped me out on several occasions and I appreciate it very much.
Good for you mate, you're a star ;D
All the best,
Jason.
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Why cant a kind gesture be taken as just that ???
Whats the world coming too!
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Jas dont worry about it mate, broad shoulders and all that.
Gary has got a metal plate in his head from an accident a long time ago.
He has to go back into hospital next week to get it changed because each time his misus switches the microwave on he plsses his pants and forgets where he is for half an hour or so. ;D
Great reply Paul, should have some real businessmen queuing up for your words of wisdom now :P
;D ;D
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You're a joke Gary, not the funny kind!
Go to bed, think its past your bed time >:(!
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Throughout my twenty odd years in this industry, people avoided each other, rather than worked together.
Through the short time this forum has been running a niche of confident, like minded people have chatted, met, swapped insults and ideas and generally speaking, formed a trusting relationship with each other.
That can only be good for the future of the industry and I commend the participants, for what they are.
Some people are insecure, others just lack confidence, others are open minded and willing to learn. Many have benefitted from the knowlege of the few, not just from their practical experience, but their guidance and encouragement. That is human nature at it's best.
It's easy and understandable for some to be cynical, or unsure of motives, when a hand is offered in friendship, or a solution is suggested, to resolve a problem.
A major problem in c/c is the lack of accepted standards, so everyone tries everything and they all get hugely differing results, because, even when using the same products, there are still dozens of variables, due to the huge variety of equipment and tools available.
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Throughout my twenty odd years in this industry, people avoided each other, rather than worked together.
Hi Rob. How true you are!
I work within 2 miles of an ex-chemdry franchisee who said speaking to competition was out the window, I speak to him on a fairly regular basis now as friends, it wouldnt have happened before these forums!!! As you say we have the odd banter and joke but I respect him tremendously for being in this business locally for soooooo long and making a success of it ;D.
Too many people are too quick to jump on the dubious bandwagon, when there are really people out the that offer advice and knowledge free of charge!
Paul has helped me on numerous occasions and answered his phone during a job and given much needed advice, something that cant be underestimated when help is needed there and then!
I think with the internet all trades can work more closely together and work as a team rather than as one. I have passed work on through internet enquiries far, far afield to people on mainly this forum and have received work from others also......
I understand peoples doubts but if the advice is free what do they have to lose!
If some of the doubters were more forthcoming with their advice or suggestions rather than posting negatively then the forums might be a happier place. If you've got nothing to say for the benefit of the topic dont bother!
All the best,
Jason.
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You're a joke Gary, not the funny kind!
Go to bed, think its past your bed time >:(!
LMAO, sense of humour bypass or what. Is that the best you can come up with " Go to bed " ???
The original reply was obviously a bit of light hearted banter, I really thought it would have been taken in the spirit it was intended, but got the obligatory ranting reply, which in fairness was deleted.
At least my reply was with my tongue in my cheek.
Surely if you are going to come on here and start a couple of threads that offer help and advice for free you're going to raise a few eyebrows and get a few comments. I think Paul's idea is kind and hope it works, why he is doing it is beyond me, but fair play to him.
I don't agree with the heavy handed "we'll meet face to face" comments, almost laughable coming from a 46 year old businessman. No doubt at some point we will all meet, quite a few I've already met! doubt we'll all get on, but that's healthy, don't won't too much man love going on in here.
In essence, hope it works, and all the participants are over consensual age, but don't have a go at me for adding a bit of a laugh. And it's normally only women that tell me when to go to bed ;D
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Gary you've deleted you insulting post to Paul ??? That wasnt lighthearted banter!!!
I was merely standing up for someone that has helped me and lots of other people out.
The "go to bed" phrase was wrong and i apologise, my missus uses it all the time ;D
I'm the first person to enjoy a bit of light hearted banter, i didnt feel this fitted the bill though.
What Paul is attempting is a first in my book, free advice to a couple of newbies to the industry.
Just saying its a very generous thing to do and I think you agree ;)
All the best,
Jason.
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Very generous offer Paul. You have E.mail
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John Thomas
Iv'e just been into your profile and what there is about you is not a lot.
Had a look at your posts all 9 of them - are you angry about something - has life been hard on you.
You are not going to ingratiate with anyone on here with your current attitude
Rob ;D
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John
I don't have a problem with anyone offering an opinion but I believe that a genuine offer of help and assistance has been made to look as if it was for gain and then it got nasty.
John I wont be drawn into a row but it was what it was a genuine offer to pass understanding on - how do I know because I am the same person and there is a great deal of worth to be gained from seeing someone succeed from your knowledge.
I wish you success in the new year but the tone of your replys has been confrontational when there has been no need. People aren't all at the same level and what to you may seem the obvious is not always the case to someone else.
Rob ;D
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John,
Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and your background. I find people are taken a lot more seriously when their profile is filled in and they tell us about themselves.
Having been on the board less than a month your credibility hasn't had time to develop, so posting info about yourself would be useful.
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John,
Good luck with your application to Paul. If you are unsuccessful and seeing as you spent a day with me last year, I will offer you the same, I know you want to do the job properly, so its there if you want it. Let me know.
Dave.
Thank you very much Dave for your kind offer , I am going to take you up on it mate , I don.t understand why this post has got so heated , there are a lot of genuine people who post on this forum offering advice and support
I will get in touch mate
All the best John
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John Thomas
is the usual wind up merchant, if it is who I think its is he has done it before and was caught out ::)
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Paul
Top man. great work. people of all experiences are going out of business each month so we all have a lots to learn from each other. From New start up to 20 yrs experience
Paul don’t forget your own education. Knowledge is a journey not a destination
Respect
Ian Harper
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i dont see why i should disclose any information about myself, there are dozens upon dozens who also have not filled out a profile, who post regularly, it's only when someone offers a differing opinion from the regular sheep on here that anyone complains about profiles, and as i see it this forum has shown itself up for what it really is ... a fraud, as my post has been deleted for no reason, that means i am not allowed to voice my own opinion and anyone who wishes to read it has been denied the opportunity, that is not a free forum and offers no encouragment for differing opinion or discussion.............SHAME ON YOU MR. MODERATOR.
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I was watching the Wizard of OZ over Christmas. In the end he turned out to be a little man hiding behind a curtain so no one knew he was just a little man.
But he knew. ;)