Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Slacky on December 15, 2024, 08:27:08 am
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Just beginning to get a new set up pieced together.
It’s a bit of a nightmare in that some of their methods are cock-eyed to what we’re used to in the UK and some of their gear is atrociously priced. For example a commercial grade R.O. System starts at about £3.5K. Ridiculous money! Someone’s making a killing flogging that stuff.
Anyway my UK experience so far seems to be worth its weight in gold in being able to decipher what route to go down. So far the R.O. system has been bought for a little over UK rates and a booster pump.
Seems over here they often just plug a D.I. Vessel into an outside tap and work away with the product that comes out the hose. Not entirely happy with that method so I’m also going down the booster pump route as I’m one of those who believes it’s about water-flow.
The R.O. is about £660.00.
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Cor what a faff, so they don’t have any van systems? They just lumber about a a RO/DI and plug in to the customers tap each time?
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
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Reliant on other water supply’s all the time…
The positive is no tank in the van I suppose.
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
That's why those portable r/o systems are popular over there. Customers just expect you to use their water supply.
There was one YouTube video where the window cleaner did have a small tank in his van. It was around 100 litres and was there just in case he needed it. He filled it from his customers supply when he used some, much like a break tank.
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That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.
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Maybe an opportunity for you to set up a company over there supplying systems?
You have the knowledge and you could get everything you need shipped over there.
This time next year Rodney
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That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.
I would imagine window cleaning is only done in the spring through to autumn.
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That’s what I’m looking in to, maybe get a 200 litre tank.
I would imagine window cleaning is only done in the spring through to autumn.
Yea, they dont do the 6 - 8 weekly thing we Have in the UK, unless it’s a retail outlet. Plenty of shops here, I’ll be pushing them, see what they’ve got arranged.
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Maybe that’s answer to the rip off insurance companies and crap suppers/installers.
A new way of working/thinking.
Good luck with the new venture
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Most important question is what's the local TDS like over there? have they gt their own version of Spotless Water over there? maybe you could set up a similar business if they haven't :)
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Just beginning to get a new set up pieced together.
It’s a bit of a nightmare in that some of their methods are cock-eyed to what we’re used to in the UK and some of their gear is atrociously priced. For example a commercial grade R.O. System starts at about £3.5K. Ridiculous money! Someone’s making a killing flogging that stuff.
Anyway my UK experience so far seems to be worth its weight in gold in being able to decipher what route to go down. So far the R.O. system has been bought for a little over UK rates and a booster pump.
Seems over here they often just plug a D.I. Vessel into an outside tap and work away with the product that comes out the hose. Not entirely happy with that method so I’m also going down the booster pump route as I’m one of those who believes it’s about water-flow.
The R.O. is about £660.00.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1734251203_IMG_0408.jpeg)
That's the one I use. Just bought a replacement last month as the manifold leaked after about six years. (And the makeshift repair I did lasted two years)
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And I fill storage tanks with it and buy spare membranes and filters from Soap National.
I don't use a booster as my tap pressure is about 60psi.
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
They also don’t have regular cleans do they ? Once or twice a year is what friend of ours have done in USA
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Most important question is what's the local TDS like over there? have they gt their own version of Spotless Water over there? maybe you could set up a similar business if they haven't :)
TDS out of the tap is 59.
I won’t be setting up a spotless water out here, they don’t have tanks in their trucks.
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
They also don’t have regular cleans do they ? Once or twice a year is what friend of ours have done in USA
Sounds like that’s the way out here too. I’ve seen people asking for a window cleaner since I’ve been over here, this autumn, so something happens in a residential sense, although it won’t be how it is in the UK.
I know retail outlets have their glass done regularly here.
I suspect window cleaning will be part of a portfolio where pressure washing plays a bigger part than it did in the UK.
I’ll do gutters, but only on single storey/ground floor buildings and bungalows.
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Reliant on other water supply’s all the time…
The positive is no tank in the van I suppose.
Cheap van insurance then🤣
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Cheap insurance the two words don’t go together
Like cheap turkey teeth
Cheap tattoos
And cheap prositutes
All best to be avoided
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It's just a different business model over in Canada and America.
You ll need more customers even for a part time business but your job price will be a lot higher. You ll have to spend more time and money advertising
Remember a lot of houses will want their tracks cleaned too,inside windows,jetwashing,gutter clearing,etc. The whole job lot.
The fall will be a busy time and early spring but you ll probably have months of no work due to the harsh winters(depending on where you are in Canada)but that just might suit you fine Matt.
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I was lead to believe there is not much demand for WC across the pond. 🤔
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Daz, winters aren’t harsh this side. I don’t think we’ve had one frost yet.
Work comes in word of mouth according to those in the know I’ve spoken to.
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I was lead to believe there is not much demand for WC across the pond. 🤔
Well, I’m ordering my Gardiners pole SLX today, so I’ll let you know.
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Few years ago did a month out there in Ontario touring and also stayed in Ottawa and Toronto.....something like 10/09 for 4 weeks so into October......the last few days were on the cool side to say the least and wet.
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
I know it's a bit late. Couldn't you have had all your kit shipped in a carton
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From what I've read over there wfp is still in some what of an infancy. Lots of them still do trad at some ridiculous heights off ladders and still believe wfp doesn't work as well as trad. They seem to be dinosaurs a lot of them. I read a post earlier on the fb pages someone over there was getting laughed at for using wfp on lower windows, apparently he should be doing them traditionally as it does a better job :D
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Yip. No holding tanks, no tanks in the truck.
I know it's a bit late. Couldn't you have had all your kit shipped in a carton
I could but just want to upgrade everything I had. New poles, new brushes. My pressure washer needed replacing so am ordering a new one of those from a company about an hour from here between Christmas and new year.
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From what I've read over there wfp is still in some what of an infancy. Lots of them still do trad at some ridiculous heights off ladders and still believe wfp doesn't work as well as trad. They seem to be dinosaurs a lot of them. I read a post earlier on the fb pages someone over there was getting laughed at for using wfp on lower windows, apparently he should be doing them traditionally as it does a better job :D
Come back in 6 months, see if I've educated them.
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From what I've read over there wfp is still in some what of an infancy. Lots of them still do trad at some ridiculous heights off ladders and still believe wfp doesn't work as well as trad. They seem to be dinosaurs a lot of them. I read a post earlier on the fb pages someone over there was getting laughed at for using wfp on lower windows, apparently he should be doing them traditionally as it does a better job :D
Come back in 6 months, see if I've educated them.
Alright
Can't see you educating septic tanks they talk underwater know everything but nowt
All the best fella.
M
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My point went straight over your head, sorry. You appear to be thinking of Americans.