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Title: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on December 13, 2024, 01:57:31 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Soupy on December 13, 2024, 02:42:02 pm
F*** that.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Jay Le Huray on December 13, 2024, 03:04:56 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Total madness, just hope you don't fall off the ladder,

is there any thing you won't do for money???
how about being a rent boy??  that should bring in a few quid
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Smudger on December 13, 2024, 03:42:08 pm
Normally you can push them back using the gutter back pole

As said…..
 utter madness esp fora lousy 60 notes
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: NBwcs on December 13, 2024, 04:09:31 pm
Normally you can push them back using the gutter back pole

As said…..
 utter madness esp fora lousy 60 notes

Absolutely, a roofer would probably have been treble that if not more. One roofer I rang lately had a minimum call out charge of £200  :o.  I get why they can charge a premium, it's their lives on the line up there, why would you value your own at so much less. Just not worth it.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: deeege on December 13, 2024, 04:10:10 pm
Driving to job, pricing the job, ladders off van, tools out, carrying out the job, packing away……

No chance the above is 30 minutes. Your non window cleaning stories are smelling more and more like  🐂💩 Michael.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Billy clarke on December 13, 2024, 04:31:29 pm
F*** that.
.  😂
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: CleanClear on December 13, 2024, 05:04:40 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

I see there's a lot of them slating you MIchael (no pun intended) . I'm on your side though, tile trimming is a potential market to be tapped into. They just don't see it. More fool them.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Bungle on December 13, 2024, 05:05:26 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Cool story bro. I'm having Chinese for tea if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: tlwcs on December 13, 2024, 06:49:01 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Cool story bro. I'm having Chinese for tea if anyone's interested.

I have mine after the football tomorrow. I’m only allowed one take out a week.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: simon w on December 13, 2024, 06:59:55 pm
You should have videoed it and stuck it on Youtube Jock  8)
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Spruce on December 13, 2024, 07:47:49 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Most roof tiles have a drip edge at the end. When you cut the tile back, you cut the drip edge off. I hope that doesn't cause other rot problems you will get blamed for. Not something I would get involved with offering.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: CleanClear on December 13, 2024, 08:12:40 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Cool story bro. I'm having Chinese for tea if anyone's interested.

I have mine after the football tomorrow. I’m only allowed one take out a week.

Are you fat mate ?
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Soupy on December 13, 2024, 08:14:07 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering.

I see there's a lot of them slating you MIchael (no pun intended) . I'm on your side though, tile trimming is a potential market to be tapped into. They just don't see it. More fool them.

Lol.

Crack on lads.

Probably nae a great market in Scotland with your battery powered saw and it raining every other day.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: NBwcs on December 14, 2024, 08:32:17 am
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Total madness, just hope you don't fall off the ladder,

is there any thing you won't do for money???
how about being a rent boy??  that should bring in a few quid


The risk assessment would be better.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Always shining on December 14, 2024, 09:26:45 am
6 years in Scottish and still not full with window cleaning which you have said before is the most profitable work you can do?
Why?
You should NOT have cut those roof tiles. If you knew what you were doing you would have known that you can put spacers behind the gutter brackets to bring the gutters out a bit.
All faff though. You know you can earn more just cleaning crap off glass.
I did property maintenance for years and as one of the above posts quite rightly said once you’ve factored in the materials, quoting and rubbish removal etc the hourly rate becomes more of an illusion.
Fill the van up with water and off you go. Regular repeat custom. Pretty much work in any weather. It really doesn’t get any easier.
I’ve been reading your posts for quite a while now and I still can’t make my mind up if you’re a wind up or not!
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: dazmond on December 14, 2024, 01:05:32 pm
I don't get why you guys get so angry with him!

It's  entirely up to him whether he wants to offer all these add on jobs as well as the window cleaning that most of us wouldn't dream of taking on.

He will be an incredible asset to his local community

Odd job men are worth their weight in gold to some folk.

I used to do all sorts when I was younger building up my round....painting fences,fixing gutters,putting up xmas lights for elderly customers,etc,etc...

I simply don't offer these services anymore because I have plenty of window work to clean and I'm in my 50s now so don't want to do any ladder work unless it's for family or friends...
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Smudger on December 14, 2024, 03:15:49 pm
And if you did Daz

Would you be making a thread about every one of these jobs on a forum - I doubt it.

I think most of us at some time have done different works - but it's hardly earth shattering and there seems to be a "how clever am I" with it - when in fact it's quite boring and when you look at the money involved just not worth the effort involved


I have a commercial gutter clear 3 storey flats - flat roof with 6 hoppers - it's £650 every 6 months - if we are unlucky the guys are there 30 mins - normally it's 15 mins  -  but I don't post a thread about it
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Always shining on December 14, 2024, 04:23:21 pm
You’re right he will be an asset to the community. Maybe not an ‘incredible asset’! I think that’s stretching it a little bit!
I don’t know about anyone else of course but I’m certainly not ‘angry’!
Amused is probably nearer the mark. Especially with the latest that he can’t work in minus 2 even with the mythical hot water.
And has been said many many times before it’s a window cleaning forum not odd job Bob land!

Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Bungle on December 14, 2024, 06:55:47 pm
You’re right he will be an asset to the community. Maybe not an ‘incredible asset’! I think that’s stretching it a little bit!
I don’t know about anyone else of course but I’m certainly not ‘angry’!
Amused is probably nearer the mark. Especially with the latest that he can’t work in minus 2 even with the mythical hot water.
And has been said many many times before it’s a window cleaning forum not odd job Bob land!

He said 2c not -2c. The bloke has rhino skin, bigs himself up, thinks he's the dog's, tries to brag about earnings (we all earn more than him)... he's boring. But I like reading his stories 😂
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Perfect Windows on December 14, 2024, 07:52:23 pm
Good luck with claiming on your window cleaning liability insurance if their roof starts leaking and they come after you.

Vin
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Spruce on December 14, 2024, 10:12:43 pm
Good luck with claiming on your window cleaning liability insurance if their roof starts leaking and they come after you.

Vin

He said in his first post that the customer asked him to do it, Vin. If this is exactly what happened, then surely the customer takes responsibility. I'm not sure that a customer would know his tiles need trimming back and was waiting for someone to come along and do it.

However, if Scottish advised them to cut the tiles back, and they then confirmed that he should do that, then he has to take responsibility for the advice and subsequent damage.

I can imagine a war of blame pointing in the future when any subsequent water damage occurs.

Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Slacky on December 14, 2024, 10:16:21 pm
When you get a customers enquiry it’s still the contractors responsibility to not damage the customers property to the point where it no longer serves the purpose it was originally intended for.

As a window cleaner, smash a window, you’re paying to repair it.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Spruce on December 15, 2024, 07:24:54 am
I don't get why you guys get so angry with him!

It's  entirely up to him whether he wants to offer all these add on jobs as well as the window cleaning that most of us wouldn't dream of taking on.

He will be an incredible asset to his local community

Odd job men are worth their weight in gold to some folk.

I used to do all sorts when I was younger building up my round....painting fences,fixing gutters,putting up xmas lights for elderly customers,etc,etc...

I simply don't offer these services anymore because I have plenty of window work to clean and I'm in my 50s now so don't want to do any ladder work unless it's for family or friends...

That's fine. You are taking about  general fixes. I don't have a problem with any one doing those jobs you mentioned.

It's not the same as taking on jobs which could damage the structural integrity of the house itself.

We have replaced the odd gutter joiner seal for an old person. We have glued back a bit of fascia trim and have also glued back some lead window strips that have lifted. But these are what I would call cosmetic jobs.

Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on December 16, 2024, 03:32:26 pm
Normally you can push them back using the gutter back pole

As said…..
 utter madness esp fora lousy 60 notes

Good to know I'm underselling myself. I suppose I like risk and that's the reason I became a fireman. I didn't see any problem with it and thought it was pretty easy. Ladder was jammed into gutter and the bottom was fixed and couldn't move.

Bought a £70 Petzl helmet today as I made 4 ton today building and removing my scaffold also have a £300 Petzl harness.

Once, I was 100 feet in the cage above a scrap yard fire and was looking down on the metal burning and it was white hot. We were spraying it with water but it just turned to steam but looked good for the cameras. Most folk would say that its dangerous but I enjoyed it. It depends on what type of person one is, I have done Potholing and I would say that is hard when your batteries fail!

Absolutely, a roofer would probably have been treble that if not more. One roofer I rang lately had a minimum call out charge of £200  :o.  I get why they can charge a premium, it's their lives on the line up there, why would you value your own at so much less. Just not worth it.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Always shining on December 16, 2024, 03:43:23 pm
You built and then removed your own scaffolding and earned 4 ton! What does that even mean?
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Slacky on December 16, 2024, 05:44:52 pm
I get why they can charge a premium, it's their lives on the line up there, why would you value your own at so much less. Just not worth it.

But you did charge less. Which begs the question, why do you value your life so much less. It’s your life on the line up there.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Tam1872 on December 16, 2024, 05:55:50 pm
Your of your head doing it at that price, im sure a decent one of them would set you back close to a grand, you might never get asked to cut tiles again, for the outlay and how rare youl use it for jobs like that then the price needs to be a lot higher.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: robbo333 on December 16, 2024, 08:04:30 pm
My mate was a roofer, his boss caught him masturbating on the roof.
Luckily, the boss said they could 'wipe the slate clean'!
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on December 17, 2024, 04:35:47 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Most roof tiles have a drip edge at the end. When you cut the tile back, you cut the drip edge off. I hope that doesn't cause other rot problems you will get blamed for. Not something I would get involved with offering.

No they don't. They are all made from compressed sand and cement bar the fancy ones in the Victorian era. I'm a joiner and been fixing roofs since I was a teenager. This roof has a great pitch so nothing will come back the way even in high winds. They used to run the felt into the gutter and it slowly disintegrated so now they fit a plastic eaves protector that goes into the gutter and usually comes loose.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Spruce on December 18, 2024, 10:01:18 am
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Most roof tiles have a drip edge at the end. When you cut the tile back, you cut the drip edge off. I hope that doesn't cause other rot problems you will get blamed for. Not something I would get involved with offering.

No they don't. They are all made from compressed sand and cement bar the fancy ones in the Victorian era. I'm a joiner and been fixing roofs since I was a teenager. This roof has a great pitch so nothing will come back the way even in high winds. They used to run the felt into the gutter and it slowly disintegrated so now they fit a plastic eaves protector that goes into the gutter and usually comes loose.

Sometimes you talk absolute rubbish.
Here is an old roof tile from our house built in the mid 60's.

Notice the drip edge. The tile is upside down btw.

I'm sure with your expertize you can see that the second photo is the top of the tile with a hole for the securing nail. One of the lugs that 'hook' onto the latt has broken off.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: tlwcs on December 18, 2024, 01:44:51 pm
Got asked to trim the tiles going into a gutter today. Had to take 50mm off the tiles because they couldn't get them cleaned out. Did it with a battery 9" stihl saw and it took 30mins and put the stuff in a bucket off my ladder limb. If was just the front and next year I have the back to do. £60 and a tenner tip so another job I will be offering. 👍

Most roof tiles have a drip edge at the end. When you cut the tile back, you cut the drip edge off. I hope that doesn't cause other rot problems you will get blamed for. Not something I would get involved with offering.

No they don't. They are all made from compressed sand and cement bar the fancy ones in the Victorian era. I'm a joiner and been fixing roofs since I was a teenager. This roof has a great pitch so nothing will come back the way even in high winds. They used to run the felt into the gutter and it slowly disintegrated so now they fit a plastic eaves protector that goes into the gutter and usually comes loose.

Were you born in Bethlehem?
I was born yesterday..
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Don Kee on December 18, 2024, 04:30:00 pm
Spruce is like the nicest guy on this forum…


If he says you talk absolute rubbish then you can believe that you’re talking absolute rubbish ;D

(I think this is the first time I’ve seen Spruce get genuinely rubbed up the wrong way by someone in the 10+ years I’ve been on this forum ;D)
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Spruce on December 18, 2024, 05:53:44 pm
Spruce is like the nicest guy on this forum…


If he says you talk absolute rubbish then you can believe that you’re talking absolute rubbish ;D

(I think this is the first time I’ve seen Spruce get genuinely rubbed up the wrong way by someone in the 10+ years I’ve been on this forum ;D)

I find some of his posts quite interesting, and have often acknowledged this. But he also is inclined to boost about what he can do, and that he is better than everyone else.

If he is happy to do any job and prepared to face the consequences, then that's up to him. But it's also good that other posters point out some of the consequences of his actions that he hasn't thought of, or just plain ignored.

It doesn't matter how the tile is made and how young he was doing roofing; that nothing to do with the fact that tiles have a drip edge.
Title: Re: Bizarre Gutter Job
Post by: Always shining on December 18, 2024, 06:12:08 pm
He’s also done a serious amount of trades in his life. I honestly can’t keep up with it!
When ‘one’ is spinning yarns ‘one’ has to have a good memory.
Just saying!