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Title: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: colin bird on November 28, 2024, 10:10:28 pm
He always been a top poster on here but he’s not posted recently ,is he ok ?
Or has he left the sinking ship ?
Just want to put this out there when I joined this forum in 2008. It was very vibrant loads of people posting,
In the early days for me this forum helped me so much,,guys posting gave me so much help and advice,and I quickly gained the knowledge to build a successful business,but as much as I don’t want to say this I feel this forum is in decline.
Really sorry to say that guys but it’s just my opinion.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: deeege on November 29, 2024, 08:36:12 am
A sign of the times. Most prefer to post on FB groups these days (not me). Add to that the decline in the user experience with all these adds and pop ups on here I think it’s inevitable that the numbers of active posters will decline. Shame.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Bungle on November 29, 2024, 09:58:23 am
Scottish will prop it up 💪
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on November 29, 2024, 01:01:33 pm
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: zesty on November 29, 2024, 01:14:45 pm
He’s been on recently, but not as regularly.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: dazmond on November 29, 2024, 01:37:28 pm
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)

Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Ian Sheppard on November 29, 2024, 03:05:46 pm
There is still a place for the CIU Forum. Since coming into the industry in 2011, This is where i dipped the toe so to speak and over time there has been a lot of very good information and knowledge shared which is great. I have learned a lot and continue to learn. There has been suggestions here such as improved reverse polarity protection, separate on/off button, Low battery protection, and Low battery protection over ride,  that became part of the controller development. 

Not sure about an electric water heater in an EV. Heating water takes a lot of energy but as they say who knows someone somewhere will no doubt solve that puzzle one day.

As for controllers in 2011 we had perhaps 6 different ones, Now well it a good few more and the journey continues as no doubt will CIU ,members willing to support others and share knowledge

Have a cracking weekend
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Smudger on November 29, 2024, 06:03:19 pm
Still here -  it maybe not be for much longer

I think is forum needs renaming to “handyman corner” as it seems most of the threads revolve around building sheds - porches -  bricklaying etc..

I don’t have anything to contribute to such threads therefore no point in posting

Have a good Christmas everyone ( I’m sure will see Micky boy bragging he got a Santa gig at the local discount store for a couple of shillings an hour 🤪 )
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: zesty on November 29, 2024, 07:08:45 pm
Still here -  it maybe not be for much longer

I think is forum needs renaming to “handyman corner” as it seems most of the threads revolve around building sheds - porches -  bricklaying etc..

I don’t have anything to contribute to such threads therefore no point in posting

Have a good Christmas everyone ( I’m sure will see Micky boy bragging he got a Santa gig at the local discount store for a couple of shillings an hour 🤪 )

How’s your health Darran? Been meaning to ask.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Suffolkcleaners on November 29, 2024, 07:56:12 pm
I also want to say a “big thank you” for the advice I’ve had on here too. I met a guy (Marc) from Southend who got me into WFP and showed me the ropes out of the goodness of his heart. I remember smudger offered me a free pump once. The advice I’ve received is excellent. Thank you all x
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on November 29, 2024, 08:29:07 pm
I think it's just that the internet has matured and only discussing window cleaning has a small window too talk about. I had a nightmare today, my clutch went after first job and I had two full days cleaning. After getting recovery its on my mates ramp and we tackle it first thing tomorrow, The clutch and flywheel have been at his for months but he has been busy and I had it booked in next week.
Everyone I talk too seems to be run off their feet, maybe its to do with the minus weather. 
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: CleanClear on November 29, 2024, 08:59:24 pm
Still here -  it maybe not be for much longer

I think is forum needs renaming to “handyman corner” as it seems most of the threads revolve around building sheds - porches -  bricklaying etc..

I don’t have anything to contribute to such threads therefore no point in posting

Have a good Christmas everyone ( I’m sure will see Micky boy bragging he got a Santa gig at the local discount store for a couple of shillings an hour 🤪 )

Take time out to rethink this mate. Without you this forum would be nothing. I took a look, and the last time you posted was ten days ago.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: windowswashed on November 30, 2024, 04:55:30 am
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on November 30, 2024, 06:51:01 am
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.

If Govs around the world continue with this madness of forcing manufacturers to build vehicles not many folk want then Luton will be the tip of the iceberg.
Been studying VW and they are closing 4 plants I know of and the German people are getting hung out to dry.
Customer is always king whether we like it of not. No customers means no busy ness and the business folds. Vehicles are depreciating assets so all that happens is they get parked on big carparks until they are sold. Folk that run businesses are actually a people person, how to please our customers. Although we don't realise this until we go through a bad patch.
The one thing I didn't like when working in public sector was working with people that no one wanted to work with but it also was a good experience.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Spruce on November 30, 2024, 08:28:03 am
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.

I'm inclined to agree with you.
Diesel will always be the driving fuel of the big lorries as electric won't work.

The very fact that this massive new lithium battery factory/plant recently raved about is on the verge of bankruptcy says a lot about the Government's EV drive that is a failure.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Smudger on November 30, 2024, 11:31:26 am
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: NBwcs on November 30, 2024, 12:55:40 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking


Sorry to hear that, do you employ staff? , if not how are you coping?
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: NBwcs on November 30, 2024, 01:10:31 pm
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.


Not sure I can take retirement for granted anymore, there's some frightening stuff on line about possible state pension means testing. This isn't just a Labour thing, the Tories were looking at it too. It's obvious that something has to give given we"re living for longer etc but I keep reading references to the Australian system. If we end up adopting something like that then alot of us are in big trouble. When I was made redundant, private pensions were performing so badly, the advice was stick it in an isa,so that what I've done. That would all go against me if it was means tested. The Aussie system also counts your  house as an asset. I could literally lose a projected £24k a year (mine and the wife's state pension) and been working my nads off to provide for us in old age for nothing, in fact worse than nothing, as the £24k is more than I'm putting away. I'm obviously getting way ahead of myself and the devil would be in the detail but it is a distinct possibility that thats where we're heading.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Smudger on November 30, 2024, 02:18:00 pm
5 staff

But when you not able to be there every day things slide unfortunately
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on November 30, 2024, 04:28:43 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking

Sorry to hear this buddy, I wish you peace and a speedy recovery. That's a lot for anyone to deal with, hope you manage to keep your chin up for the main part! 👍
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Splash and dash on November 30, 2024, 05:21:17 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking


Sorry to here this hope you are able to get sorted out asap health is far more important than work , are you able to get someone to help manage / run the business or consider selling it as an ongoing and well established business? 
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Slacky on November 30, 2024, 06:17:20 pm
Good luck in your recovery Darren, thinking of you.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on November 30, 2024, 07:31:37 pm
I'm inclined to agree with you.
Diesel will always be the driving fuel of the big lorries as electric won't work.

The very fact that this massive new lithium battery factory/plant recently raved about is on the verge of bankruptcy says a lot about the Government's EV drive that is a failure.
Quote:-

Bus driver was telling me they can't put the heater on as it drain's the bus batteries. They are all driving these state of the art buses with hats, scarfs and gloves on. If Governments love EVs then you would expect them to be driven around in them. Only thing holding them up is the public sector who are forced to lease them.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 30, 2024, 08:19:20 pm
Sorry to hear of your health issues Darran, wishing you a full and speedy recovery🤞
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: colin bird on November 30, 2024, 08:34:55 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking

Hi mate so sorry to hear your unwell,it’s sounds like your bang up against physically, it sounds like you will be out of action for sometime,
I wish you a full recovery.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Smudger on November 30, 2024, 11:19:57 pm
Cheers guys

Splash - option 2 😉
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: CleanClear on December 01, 2024, 09:03:55 pm

Just want to put this out there when I joined this forum in 2008. It was very vibrant loads of people posting,
In the early days for me this forum helped me so much,,guys posting gave me so much help and advice,and I quickly gained the knowledge to build a successful business,but as much as I don’t want to say this I feel this forum is in decline.


2008 is a VERY long time ago mate. In my opinion theres lots of reasons why the forum would of been busier back then: there was a shift from traditional window cleaning to the new "WFP" cleaning... that opened the doors to a lot of otherwise operators. And of course discussion about the merits or otherwise of pole and other associated equiptemnt.

In general with regards to forums, many have collapsed completley due to Facebook forums , whats app groups etc.... but that would depend upon what your niche interest is. As far as i can see this is still a very busy forum for window cleaning.

  Of course there is plenty of Facebook groups that do "window cleaning", but a question there could end up with more notifications than you could shake a stick at. How you gonna know who to believe amongst all them comments ?


  Sometimes the biggest audience (for your questions) isn't always the best.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: windowswashed on December 01, 2024, 11:04:37 pm
Facebook window cleaning forum  I stay well away from, too much bull, backstabbing and nasty comments. Not very constructive criticism or help. Prefer this forum any day even if it is slow at times.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Spruce on December 03, 2024, 10:31:32 pm
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.

If Govs around the world continue with this madness of forcing manufacturers to build vehicles not many folk want then Luton will be the tip of the iceberg.
Been studying VW and they are closing 4 plants I know of and the German people are getting hung out to dry.
Customer is always king whether we like it of not. No customers means no busy ness and the business folds. Vehicles are depreciating assets so all that happens is they get parked on big carparks until they are sold. Folk that run businesses are actually a people person, how to please our customers. Although we don't realise this until we go through a bad patch.
The one thing I didn't like when working in public sector was working with people that no one wanted to work with but it also was a good experience.

Northvolt has declared bankruptcy. 

China was building 2 lithium battery factories in Europe. This has been cancelled. The large lithium battery factory in the UK looks like folding.

The state of VW and Audi are testament to the dire straights the European motor industry is in. Europeans are buying petrol and diesel vehicles again having fallen out of love with EVs.

A report I read over the weekend says that the UK government is to revaluate their EV policy.

Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: zesty on December 04, 2024, 06:46:47 am
We produced less than 1% of global emissions, anything we do is futile. If it makes us poorer, it’s even more sinister.

Our  government is hell bent on making us poorer.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: dazmond on December 04, 2024, 08:04:45 am
The infrastructure is not there yet with electric vehicles but make no mistake electric vehicles are here to stay unfortunately.

The other problem is price. They are very expensive.

I think Ford have an all electric vehicle factory in this country now and have stopped making internal combustion engines altogether.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on December 04, 2024, 09:29:00 am
I also think the industry has stalled with developments in wfp- there never seems to be anything new to talk, or get excited about anymore.🤔
We're seemingly stuck with the same old poles and brushes. Definitely think there's still plenty of development left in brushes at least.

I hope someone comes up with a decent water heater that is compatible with an electric van in the future as the diesel heaters will become obsolete once we re all driving electric vehicles(unless of course you want a separate diesel tank in the back of the van)


Electric vans  ;D  will be retired before they become compulsory thank goodness.

If Govs around the world continue with this madness of forcing manufacturers to build vehicles not many folk want then Luton will be the tip of the iceberg.
Been studying VW and they are closing 4 plants I know of and the German people are getting hung out to dry.
Customer is always king whether we like it of not. No customers means no busy ness and the business folds. Vehicles are depreciating assets so all that happens is they get parked on big carparks until they are sold. Folk that run businesses are actually a people person, how to please our customers. Although we don't realise this until we go through a bad patch.
The one thing I didn't like when working in public sector was working with people that no one wanted to work with but it also was a good experience.

Northvolt has declared bankruptcy. 

China was building 2 lithium battery factories in Europe. This has been cancelled. The large lithium battery factory in the UK looks like folding.

The state of VW and Audi are testament to the dire straights the European motor industry is in. Europeans are buying petrol and diesel vehicles again having fallen out of love with EVs.

A report I read over the weekend says that the UK government is to revaluate their EV policy.

It will all change from 20th January and we will go back to combustion and hybrids. When one wants to jump the stepping stone then you end up falling in the water. When we try and walk, we crawl and then try and stand up and then we try and take steps. Problem with politicians, they have no patience and want it all at once and then it collapses and they blame someone else.
When I rush, I generally make mistakes.

When my clutch went Friday morning I decided to lose two days and move them on to Sunday and  Monday. Contacted some customers to let them know and the rest I wrote on the card I posted. Everyone was great with it and were more interested in how much it cost to fix.

When would you want to know bad news? Right away so its the same with our customers, worse thing to do is hang them out to dry, infact, that's how you lose customers. fwiw
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Soupy on December 04, 2024, 10:55:54 am
You are all collectively talking out of your arses.

https://www.zap-map.com/ev-stats/ev-market

It's not your fault though, the media is lying to you.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Soupy on December 04, 2024, 10:56:45 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1733309823_Screenshot_2024-12-04-10-56-04-24_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1733309803_Screenshot_2024-12-04-10-56-24-00_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg)
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: anderclean on December 04, 2024, 05:52:03 pm
Sorry to hear of your health difficulties Darran
As others have said you are solid backbone of the members on here that always offer help, as soon  asked
You've helped me massively on and off,  over many years
Wishing you a good and full recovery asap
AtB
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: Ggh on December 10, 2024, 12:12:48 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking

poop. Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: M.c.s on December 26, 2024, 08:37:49 pm
All the best to you Darren you have helped me with advice over the years you've never stepped back from helping. You've always stepped  up for info. You a good man dude


Be safe bro
Title: Re: Where’s smudger gone ?
Post by: dazmond on December 27, 2024, 02:42:15 pm
Health is not good - dialysis all ok however I have a massive foot ulcer and infection - fighting to keep it away from the bone or it’s farewell leg 😞

Also have sharko ( Charcot) where the bones in the foot basically fall apart - I have 7 fractures 3 dislocations and free floating bone- will takes years plus to fix - so in a cast - no driving - no walking

So sorry to hear of your health problems Smudger. Thank God you employ or it would be bye bye business....

I know that if I developed any serious health problems I would lose my 31 year old business without a shadow of a doubt.

Best wishes for Xmas and the new year and we all wish you a vast health improvement for 2025.