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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on November 10, 2024, 10:56:55 am
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I'm getting rid of my van which is a citroen relay L2 H2. Reason being its overkill what what I need as a one man operation. Its pretty rubbish on fuel about 25mpg and it does annoy me with parking on some jobs. But also I use it as my only vehicle so on a weekend just nipping about to shops etc it is annoying to park.
Anyway I want to downsize but I can't decide between getting a really small van like a partner/combo/connect etc or a medium size like a vivaro/custom etc.
Obviously the smaller the van the easier to get about in and park and should be slightly better on fuel too.
But maybe I will miss the space ?
What do you guys reckon and if you where to get another van would it be same size you have or smaller or bigger ?
It will be just window cleaning so a 500l tank will be fine but i might want to van mount my pressure washer as well next spring.
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I’ve had Vauxhall combo’s before both lwb and swb and now have a Transit custom.
The custom is worlds apart in terms of comfort and space and reliability.
600 litre tank and still room for vac and other bits if needed.I can also unbolt the reel and still get a couple of mountain bikes in the back.
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Same here...Transit Custom with 500 litre tank and still plenty of room..........
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I would probably go for Berlingo lwb, but then I only do window cleaning, no pressure washing.
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Custom all day everyday.
Perfect size van for a large tank plus gutter vac and other bits and bobs.
Easy to park, great to drive.
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I’ve had Berlingos for years now and recommended them. 3 seats, easily fit a 500 tank, good payload and it’s just like driving a car.
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I have a transit custom with a 500 l van mounted system with about a metre of space from tank to back doors ,so big enough to do a tip run,more importantly enough room to put my fishing stuff in when I go fishing for a couple of days
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I’ve had Berlingos for years now and recommended them. 3 seats, easily fit a 500 tank, good payload and it’s just like driving a car.
Is that the older 1.6 or the newer 1.5 ?
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I have a transit custom with a 500 l van mounted system with about a metre of space from tank to back doors ,so big enough to do a tip run,more importantly enough room to put my fishing stuff in when I go fishing for a couple of days
Yes I go fishing and biking so that extra space might be needed.
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I’ve had Berlingos for years now and recommended them. 3 seats, easily fit a 500 tank, good payload and it’s just like driving a car.
Is that the older 1.6 or the newer 1.5 ?
The newer 1.5. Very good engines, plenty of pull so there’s no issues there even when fully loaded.
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I’ve had Berlingos for years now and recommended them. 3 seats, easily fit a 500 tank, good payload and it’s just like driving a car.
Is that the older 1.6 or the newer 1.5 ?
The newer 1.5. Very good engines, plenty of pull so there’s no issues there even when fully loaded.
That was the first van I was interested in but then I read loads online about timing chains snapping apparently it's a common problem.
But then I guess if you google faults on any van there's always something.
Presuming they will be good on fuel ?
Do poles fit in or do you need to put them through bulkhead ?
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Imho there are pros and cons to every vehicle purchase. We just don't know what all the cons are with a new vehicle until we start using it.
If the current van is working for you space wise then I would be inclined to stick with the negatives of owning it - parking etc. Perhaps fitting a reversing camera may help. It did with me. I also fitted 2 reverse sensors on each side of the bumper as an added aid.
I would be interested in seeing what the actual length difference is between your current van and a lwb Ford Custom.
Buying a new van is always going to cost you, even if you are down sizing.
You have had a hard time with motivation lately. Having a change of scenery (new van) could make you feel better for a short time but doesn't fix the problem of motivation to continue cleaning windows.
Transferring a system across from an old to a new van can be a right pain.
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I have a 2019 Peugeot Partner with a 400lts tank, a Pure Freedom Elec reel, panther gutter vac and a small shelf/rack on the drivers side. While the payload is good at a little over 1000kg I don't have enough space left to mount a pressure washer and all the kit you need to carry. I have a small pressure washer, a Parker 6.5hp, 11L/min and that just fits with a hose reel and a few other bits and bobs.
If I didn't have the racking then there may be enough room for a van mount pressure washer but you might struggle to get that and a gutter vac in.
It is reasonable on fuel, I get about 35mpg but all my round is within 3 miles so van never gets warm - take it on a run every month or so. It is easy to park and decent to drive.
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I’ve had Berlingos for years now and recommended them. 3 seats, easily fit a 500 tank, good payload and it’s just like driving a car.
Is that the older 1.6 or the newer 1.5 ?
The newer 1.5. Very good engines, plenty of pull so there’s no issues there even when fully loaded.
That was the first van I was interested in but then I read loads online about timing chains snapping apparently it's a common problem.
But then I guess if you google faults on any van there's always something.
Presuming they will be good on fuel ?
Do poles fit in or do you need to put them through bulkhead ?
I can’t comment on timing belt issues. I’ve had 4 Berlingos, 3 brand new and 1 a year old. Never had a timing belt issue or any other mechanical issue either.
I fit a 27ft pole in the back straight and anything bigger goes diagonal.
Decent on fuel, 48.8mpg over 10.4K miles so far this year.
Very underrated vans imo.
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Don’t you do prsssure washing and gutter vac work Adam?
You need a medium size van like a custom. I 100% gaurentee you’ll find a berlingo to small. You also go fishing and chuck bikes in the back? You need a transit custom or similar surely?
Not saying the Berlingo is a bad van, just talking size.
I can fit a 750l tank, 47ft poles, gutter vac, pressure washer and softwash machine in my transit custom. (Not all at the same time, though i could at a push) I also have room for tip runs, buying sofas or furniture etc. it really is a fantastic sized van.
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I have had 5 Berlingo vans, no problems what so ever. From my experience, the most important thing is to have a regular oil change. I too have the new 1.5 Berlingo and it is a perfect van for me. I get around 58 to the gallon. I do gutter cleaning to, I purchased the shadow from guttervac systems and it fits in perfectly with my electric reel. I did get the top of the range Berlingo with all the toys, and as said its like driving a car.
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I have a MWB Crafter but its too big for window cleaning. Its ideal for everything else and holds a triple ladder no bother. I have never gave the fuel consumption a second thought because I charge a premium rate in window cleaning. Lost a few customers who have saved £3 returning to a new Trad guy who has canvased the area.
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I'm getting rid of my van which is a citroen relay L2 H2. Reason being its overkill what what I need as a one man operation. Its pretty rubbish on fuel about 25mpg and it does annoy me with parking on some jobs. But also I use it as my only vehicle so on a weekend just nipping about to shops etc it is annoying to park.
Anyway I want to downsize but I can't decide between getting a really small van like a partner/combo/connect etc or a medium size like a vivaro/custom etc.
Obviously the smaller the van the easier to get about in and park and should be slightly better on fuel too.
But maybe I will miss the space ?
What do you guys reckon and if you where to get another van would it be same size you have or smaller or bigger ?
It will be just window cleaning so a 500l tank will be fine but i might want to van mount my pressure washer as well next spring.
I'd get two vehicles....a smaller van just for work and a different vehicle for leisure. Easier for claiming expenses and keeps your work and free time separate.
Ford connect L2 240 is the perfect van for me with 500l tank and hot water system. Poles fit straight in(25ft/47ft)without the need to cut into bulkhead.
For leisure time I'm currently driving a black Cupra automatic. I love it! It's a fantastic small SUV. Just come back from a weekend in London in it. Nice drive and my missus likes it so uses it occasionally too.
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I'm getting rid of my van which is a citroen relay L2 H2. Reason being its overkill what what I need as a one man operation. Its pretty rubbish on fuel about 25mpg and it does annoy me with parking on some jobs. But also I use it as my only vehicle so on a weekend just nipping about to shops etc it is annoying to park.
Anyway I want to downsize but I can't decide between getting a really small van like a partner/combo/connect etc or a medium size like a vivaro/custom etc.
Obviously the smaller the van the easier to get about in and park and should be slightly better on fuel too.
But maybe I will miss the space ?
What do you guys reckon and if you where to get another van would it be same size you have or smaller or bigger ?
It will be just window cleaning so a 500l tank will be fine but i might want to van mount my pressure washer as well next spring.
I'd get two vehicles....a smaller van just for work and a different vehicle for leisure. Easier for claiming expenses and keeps your work and free time separate.
Ford connect L2 240 is the perfect van for me with 500l tank and hot water system. Poles fit straight in(25ft/47ft)without the need to cut into bulkhead.
For leisure time I'm currently driving a black Cupra automatic. I love it! It's a fantastic small SUV. Just come back from a weekend in London in it. Nice drive and my missus likes it so uses it occasionally too.
R lass has just bought a new car so i can drive that....dont need another one really would be a waste of money, i just want a van for work/hobbies/tip runs etc
LWB connect does look a good size though
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
I've always bought older vehicles, had dozens of them over the years. But bought a new one on a whim a couple of years ago. Its worth about 12k less than what I paid for it in just over 2 years...total waste of money. Could have bought a cheaper van and replaced the engine 3 times over and still be better off. Won't ever buy a new one again its all great until the novelty wears off after a couple of months.
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
I've always bought older vehicles, had dozens of them over the years. But bought a new one on a whim a couple of years ago. Its worth about 12k less than what I paid for it in just over 2 years...total waste of money. Could have bought a cheaper van and replaced the engine 3 times over and still be better off. Won't ever buy a new one again its all great until the novelty wears off after a couple of months.
It’s more cost effective against tax to buy new than run older vans ,depending on your turnover
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
I've always bought older vehicles, had dozens of them over the years. But bought a new one on a whim a couple of years ago. Its worth about 12k less than what I paid for it in just over 2 years...total waste of money. Could have bought a cheaper van and replaced the engine 3 times over and still be better off. Won't ever buy a new one again its all great until the novelty wears off after a couple of months.
It’s more cost effective against tax to buy new than run older vans ,depending on your turnover
Not really. Probably more so if you are vat registered.
But mine as an example
29k Inc Vat, can't claim vat back
2 and half years old
Now worth around 13.5k book value maybe 15k private.
Ive Lost say 14k.
I saved around 5k in tax but if I sell it for 14k I'll pay 2.8k of that back profit on sale.
Could have bought a van for say 5k had it 2 years and if I had been really unlucky spent a grand on repairs and lost a grand in depreciation.
Depreciation kills new vans it almost never works out better financially.
It gives a bit of peace of mind with warranty and it's nice to have but financially a new vehicle is about the worst investment you can make. Infact it's worse than that when you add the finance interest.
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
I've always bought older vehicles, had dozens of them over the years. But bought a new one on a whim a couple of years ago. Its worth about 12k less than what I paid for it in just over 2 years...total waste of money. Could have bought a cheaper van and replaced the engine 3 times over and still be better off. Won't ever buy a new one again its all great until the novelty wears off after a couple of months.
It’s more cost effective against tax to buy new than run older vans ,depending on your turnover
Not really. Probably more so if you are vat registered.
But mine as an example
29k Inc Vat, can't claim vat back
2 and half years old
Now worth around 13.5k book value maybe 15k private.
Ive Lost say 14k.
I saved around 5k in tax but if I sell it for 14k I'll pay 2.8k of that back profit on sale.
Could have bought a van for say 5k had it 2 years and if I had been really unlucky spent a grand on repairs and lost a grand in depreciation.
Depreciation kills new vans it almost never works out better financially.
It gives a bit of peace of mind with warranty and it's nice to have but financially a new vehicle is about the worst investment you can make. ;D it's worse than that when you add the finance interest.
I bought a 1 year old Berlingo this time around for this reason. Most of the depreciation has already been lost and it had only done 12k miles. Was also Irish imported so no VAT. Helped on the tax bill last year also ;D
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My mechanic mate was saying new vans are all electronics and they don't want anyone bar themselves to work on them. He was saying a customer bought a new Transit 4 or 5 years ago. Ford garage told him, this is brand new technology and we don't know how to work on them at the moment and suggested an older van. The guy was determined to be the first and the van lasted 4 years and was in and out of the Ford garage and even had a new engine fitted. In the end the van disappeared and he now has another new Transit but they have seemed to iron out alot of the problems.
Better to buy an old shape van until its been out there on the road for 3 years so they know all the faults that have came in. I'm looking for a 23 or 24 plate Crafter but swapping tank over will be a headache and better to do it in the Summer when daylight is still there at 10pm.
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I've had the green Ranger for 12 years and the black one for four.
Both have been absolutely perfect for window cleaning for me but I accept they wouldn't suit everyone.
As an added bonus they have car speed limits too.
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My mechanic mate was saying new vans are all electronics and they don't want anyone bar themselves to work on them. He was saying a customer bought a new Transit 4 or 5 years ago. Ford garage told him, this is brand new technology and we don't know how to work on them at the moment and suggested an older van. The guy was determined to be the first and the van lasted 4 years and was in and out of the Ford garage and even had a new engine fitted. In the end the van disappeared and he now has another new Transit but they have seemed to iron out alot of the problems.
Better to buy an old shape van until its been out there on the road for 3 years so they know all the faults that have came in. I'm looking for a 23 or 24 plate Crafter but swapping tank over will be a headache and better to do it in the Summer when daylight is still there at 10pm.
You are right. Never buy a new model of any vehicle until it's proved itself in the marketplace.
I've never understood why there is usually a queue to buy a new model vehicle by enthusiasts.
In 1998/9 Alfa launched their new Alpha Romeo 156. The first models in the showroom were absolute junk, IMHO. Internal plastic components just fell off in the showroom and on the lot. They were back numerous times for coolant leaks. Fix one, give it a clean bill of health, and another leak would start a week or so later. Some of those early models were in our workshop more than with their new owners. If the leak was at the heater matrix, the whole dash had to be removed to fix it. Fiat's answer was that customers just accept that Alphas are going to be quirky.
My wife was then given one as a company car. No issues, apart from that it used oil, which it continued to do all the time she had it. In fact, there is still some oil for it in our garage. It was specifically for that Alpha engine. I topped that engine oil up every weekend.
The same thing happened when Citroën launched the C5. It took them a while to solve electrical problems. They were fitted with numerous computers (I forget how many), but they sometimes didn't talk to each other correctly, causing the vehicle to go into limp mode. In the end, they were pretty good cars. What I could never understand is that motor manufacturers never seem to test new models in an everyday environment. All they have to do is send a few models over to Africa, and faults will become immediately evident within a few hours. ;D
What did amaze me was that the best troubleshooters were the recovery lads working for the RAC and Green Flag. (Citroën never used the AA.) In 99% of recovery cases, their road side fault diagnosis was correct. Most of our workshop mechanics had no idea how to trouble shoot.
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I've had the green Ranger for 12 years and the black one for four.
Both have been absolutely perfect for window cleaning for me but I accept they wouldn't suit everyone.
As an added bonus they have car speed limits too.
I wonder how new legislation is going to work for double cabs, especially as they will be treated as cars rather than commercial vehicles. I'm thinking about tachograph use. There is some confusion even now when it comes to tachograph use. If you tow a trailer with a digger on the back, then you must have a working tachograph. But if you are towing the digger within a certain distance from base, (I think it's 20 miles), you don't need a tachograph.
I spoke to our policeman customer and he didn't understand the ruling. I asked him what he would do if he came across a double cab pulling a digger on a trailer. "As long as it is securely strapped down, he would ignore anything else."
I wonder if the old Land Rover Defender Estate will lose is commercial status as well. It's no longer being made, so I guess it doesn't matter.
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I have paid cash for the last few used vans I have purchased.
If I can't work or can only do a little due to health and age related issues, then I don't have to worry about how I'm going to make the van payments.
So for me, I will continue with my 62 plate swb Boxer van for as long as I can. If something should happen to this van and I would need to buy another, I would probably seriously consider giving up window cleaning and retiring.
I've always bought older vehicles, had dozens of them over the years. But bought a new one on a whim a couple of years ago. Its worth about 12k less than what I paid for it in just over 2 years...total waste of money. Could have bought a cheaper van and replaced the engine 3 times over and still be better off. Won't ever buy a new one again its all great until the novelty wears off after a couple of months.
It’s more cost effective against tax to buy new than run older vans ,depending on your turnover
Not really. Probably more so if you are vat registered.
But mine as an example
29k Inc Vat, can't claim vat back
2 and half years old
Now worth around 13.5k book value maybe 15k private.
Ive Lost say 14k.
I saved around 5k in tax but if I sell it for 14k I'll pay 2.8k of that back profit on sale.
Could have bought a van for say 5k had it 2 years and if I had been really unlucky spent a grand on repairs and lost a grand in depreciation.
Depreciation kills new vans it almost never works out better financially.
It gives a bit of peace of mind with warranty and it's nice to have but financially a new vehicle is about the worst investment you can make. ;D it's worse than that when you add the finance interest.
I bought a 1 year old Berlingo this time around for this reason. Most of the depreciation has already been lost and it had only done 12k miles. Was also Irish imported so no VAT. Helped on the tax bill last year also ;D
Absolutely right
The person who buys my 22 plate van with 15k on the clock for 14 grand and no vat is getting a hell of a better deal than I did.
Lesson learnt don't buy stuff on a whim ;D
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I bought a 2010 Citroen dispatch, ran it pretty much trouble free for 5 years and lost £1650 in it when I changed it! Had my current Scudo 5 years next January and it's cost me nothing above normal servicing costs. Come January, it will be worth 2 to 2.5k less than it's purchase price of 5 years ago.
It's not about how much gold you get out of the ground, only how much of that gold 'you' get to keep!👍
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If you keep it a long time nothing wrong with buying new. I bought my dispatch brand new nearly 19 years ago and it has been an excellent van (I realize not many people keep their van quite so long).
Still planning to keep it another year or two.
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If you keep it a long time nothing wrong with buying new. I bought my dispatch brand new nearly 19 years ago and it has been an excellent van (I realize not many people keep their van quite so long).
Still planning to keep it another year or two.
Agree with that, it's the only way to make them pay.
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I wonder how new legislation is going to work for double cabs, especially as they will be treated as cars rather than commercial vehicles. I'm thinking about tachograph use. There is some confusion even now when it comes to tachograph use. If you tow a trailer with a digger on the back, then you must have a working tachograph. But if you are towing the digger within a certain distance from base, (I think it's 20 miles), you don't need a tachograph.
I spoke to our policeman customer and he didn't understand the ruling. I asked him what he would do if he came across a double cab pulling a digger on a trailer. "As long as it is securely strapped down, he would ignore anything else."
I thought it was anything over 3.5 T even as a combo. So 2T vehicle, 750 kg trailer is fine. 3.5T vehicle with trailer will be over and caught by the regs ?
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If you keep it a long time nothing wrong with buying new. I bought my dispatch brand new nearly 19 years ago and it has been an excellent van (I realize not many people keep their van quite so long).
Still planning to keep it another year or two.
Mate, not many people even stay married that long !! ;D ;D
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If you keep it a long time nothing wrong with buying new. I bought my dispatch brand new nearly 19 years ago and it has been an excellent van (I realize not many people keep their van quite so long).
Still planning to keep it another year or two.
Mate, not many people even stay married that long !! ;D ;D
I know which has been easiest to maintain, manage and been more reliable.
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I bought my Crafter when it was 18 months old and Vat had went down to 15% so it cost £14,200. It was the credit crunch and they couldn't sell them in 2009. Still got it and not much has went wrong with it but I spend a fortune on it every year and bought 5 new wheels a few years ago at £75 each. If you take care of things then they will last a long time. It has done £100k miles and on third timing belt, water pump and ancillaries. New battery, third one, new PS pump, Alternator and next thing will be Flywheel and Clutch which I have. That's the only way to make money from a van and that's to run it till it dies.
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I am selling two Fiat Doblo vans from my fleet, might suit your needs, enough room for a mountain bike and fishing rods in the back
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Where did you get that blue tray made that is perfect for any window cleaning van
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I am selling two Fiat Doblo vans from my fleet, might suit your needs, enough room for a mountain bike and fishing rods in the back
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Looks ideal
Where abouts are you ?
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Staffordshire
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Staffordshire
There isn't a price on your ads?
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Added prices to both adverts 6.5k for the 65 plate and 7.5k for the 18 plate
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
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I think you get a little more room in the back of the doblo conpared to the lwb connect and berlingo.
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
Not really there's loads on ebay/autotrader 2 or 3 grand cheaper same age and mileage... I was just being nice.
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
Not really there's loads on ebay/autotrader 2 or 3 grand cheaper same age and mileage... I was just being nice.
Cheaper isn’t always best , eBay is a dangerous place to buy vehicles if you don’t know what you are doing , I think his vans looked very nice for the money
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
Rude!
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
Not really there's loads on ebay/autotrader 2 or 3 grand cheaper same age and mileage... I was just being nice.
buy a cheaper one then,
because a fully set up van is the same as a empty van which needs a full set up isn't it ::)roll
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I think Scrimble's vans are a fair price with nice looking systems.
Personally I would not want such a high mileage van. If you are confidant which van would suit your needs long term, I would buy new or nearly new.
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I think the VAT and the distance rules me out but thats given me a good idea what size van would work, that seems big enough. Cheers
Your loss
Not really there's loads on ebay/autotrader 2 or 3 grand cheaper same age and mileage... I was just being nice.
buy a cheaper one then,
because a fully set up van is the same as a empty van which needs a full set up isn't it ::)roll
I've bought one thanks.
It is if you are planning on buying a 3k system to put in it yes but I'm not. The gear in your van isn't worth a grand second hand unfortunately.
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The 65 plate van is now sold, and Stoots I honestly couldn't care less what you think, I get what level you are at
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The 65 plate van is now sold, and Stoots I honestly couldn't care less what you think, I get what level you are at
I'm not at the level of lying on forums i'll tell you that I might talk poope but I'm honest.
Funny you sold it 10 days ago but listed them both for sale yesterday on fb mark.
Can't beat ciu for some good old BS to stroke the ego.
Seems I'm not the only one with the correct opinion on your asking price.
Yes I only posted this to antagonise ;D
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The 65 plate van is now sold, and Stoots I honestly couldn't care less what you think, I get what level you are at
I'm not at the level of lying on forums i'll tell you that I might talk poope but I'm honest.
Funny you sold it 10 days ago but listed them both for sale yesterday on fb mark.
Can't beat ciu for some good old BS to stroke the ego.
Seems I'm not the only one with the correct opinion on your asking price.
Yes I only posted this to antagonise ;D
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Dont worry Adam scrimble has usually been a bad tempered,arrogant person on here having sly digs at most posters....his problem is not any of ours....🙂👍
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Dont worry Adam scrimble has usually been a bad tempered,arrogant person on here having sly digs at most posters....his problem is not any of ours....🙂👍
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I have a bizarre hobby, it involves studying arrogant people. Watch many programs with Greg on it and I did like the program called " Inside the factory"
On one program he got put down and totally changed from nice to rage like a split personality. These people don't usually stay married long because they are hard to live with.
Always wondered how he manage to get on the TV.
When I was young I was bit arrogant until I noticed the things I gave out quickly came back around to me. I decided to change and my business slowly grew and I felt better in myself. They say pride comes before a fall but I actually think its arrogant after studying high profile bankruptcies. fwiw 🤔
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I have a 2011 plate renault traffic, had it from new and have always loved the van, on a run I still get 35 plus to the gallon, I have a 650l tank and only do window cleaning now. Smaller vans may be great on economy but space really is a premium, transit/traffic size is ideal, they drive like a car and parking and so on is pretty much straightforward, go larger and that most definitely becomes an issue as does fuel economy.
Alas although my van is low milage for it's age, she is also an old girl now and every year she fails the MOT on something, usually ball joints or track rod ends (very common on traffic/primastar and vivaro) I'd love to get a new (er) transit custom but I'm also at the tail end of my working life! 😪 at some point I'll have to replace the old girl ... it's a hassle on the horizon I could do without!
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I have a 2011 plate renault traffic, had it from new and have always loved the van, on a run I still get 35 plus to the gallon, I have a 650l tank and only do window cleaning now. Smaller vans may be great on economy but space really is a premium, transit/traffic size is ideal, they drive like a car and parking and so on is pretty much straightforward, go larger and that most definitely becomes an issue as does fuel economy.
Alas although my van is low milage for it's age, she is also an old girl now and every year she fails the MOT on something, usually ball joints or track rod ends (very common on traffic/primastar and vivaro) I'd love to get a new (er) transit custom but I'm also at the tail end of my working life! 😪 at some point I'll have to replace the old girl ... it's a hassle on the horizon I could do without!
There might still be plenty of life left in it. I sold my 2006 vivaro 3 years ago with 135k on it. Lad who bought it still runs around in it, now on 160k.
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I have a 2011 plate renault traffic, had it from new and have always loved the van, on a run I still get 35 plus to the gallon, I have a 650l tank and only do window cleaning now. Smaller vans may be great on economy but space really is a premium, transit/traffic size is ideal, they drive like a car and parking and so on is pretty much straightforward, go larger and that most definitely becomes an issue as does fuel economy.
Alas although my van is low milage for it's age, she is also an old girl now and every year she fails the MOT on something, usually ball joints or track rod ends (very common on traffic/primastar and vivaro) I'd love to get a new (er) transit custom but I'm also at the tail end of my working life! 😪 at some point I'll have to replace the old girl ... it's a hassle on the horizon I could do without!
Keep it going Ian.
I am still running my from new 2012 Hyundai iLoad and intend to run it until I wind down and stop over the next three years all being equal. I only do window cleaning now.
Mine was financially written off in summer 2023 and is back on the road as a Cat S. Like you it has a 650L and will likely hit 80,000 miles just before Xmas.
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
A deposit , to come look at it ? ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that.
In the time you've been on this forum you have progressed from being a 20 year old lad with a ladder asking dumb questions, to a succesfull business operator operating maybe 7 or 8 vans. Your questions have got less and your remarks of "dickhead " or some such put down to people gathered pace.
You've consistently been an advocate of buying a new van as a second hand one is a waste of time............ but you also chose here to advertise your second hand vans ;D
You don't come across as a nice or helpful person at all. And as you said to Stoots.................. I know what level you are at, i think we all know your level too and your level is not a nice one.
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I have a 2011 plate renault traffic, had it from new and have always loved the van, on a run I still get 35 plus to the gallon, I have a 650l tank and only do window cleaning now. Smaller vans may be great on economy but space really is a premium, transit/traffic size is ideal, they drive like a car and parking and so on is pretty much straightforward, go larger and that most definitely becomes an issue as does fuel economy.
Alas although my van is low milage for it's age, she is also an old girl now and every year she fails the MOT on something, usually ball joints or track rod ends (very common on traffic/primastar and vivaro) I'd love to get a new (er) transit custom but I'm also at the tail end of my working life! 😪 at some point I'll have to replace the old girl ... it's a hassle on the horizon I could do without!
I'm in the same position as you working part time in a small mercedes vito, love it, very practical, economical and most importantly reliable. Gets through most MOT's and needs the odd job here and there but I get my army deferred pension next year and plan to wind down slowly into retirement. Don't wish to pay out the price of a new van and will make do with what I got, I'm happy driving around in my old van that I'm so familiar with.
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
A deposit , to come look at it ? ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that.
In the time you've been on this forum you have progressed from being a 20 year old lad with a ladder asking dumb questions, to a succesfull business operator operating maybe 7 or 8 vans. Your questions have got less and your remarks of "dickhead " or some such put down to people gathered pace.
You've consistently been an advocate of buying a new van as a second hand one is a waste of time............ but you also chose here to advertise your second hand vans ;D
You don't come across as a nice or helpful person at all. And as you said to Stoots.................. I know what level you are at, i think we all know your level too and your level is not a nice one.
Take the heat out of your comments please - and that goes for anyone else who wants to attack a person rather than just their actions too.
BTW - Scrimble said that he should have taken a deposit when the person buying said he was going to buy the van - not just to look.
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
Please comment in a less heated manner when responding.
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
A deposit , to come look at it ? ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that.
In the time you've been on this forum you have progressed from being a 20 year old lad with a ladder asking dumb questions, to a succesfull business operator operating maybe 7 or 8 vans. Your questions have got less and your remarks of "dickhead " or some such put down to people gathered pace.
You've consistently been an advocate of buying a new van as a second hand one is a waste of time............ but you also chose here to advertise your second hand vans ;D
You don't come across as a nice or helpful person at all. And as you said to Stoots.................. I know what level you are at, i think we all know your level too and your level is not a nice one.
Never been keen on you from your posts but that one is spot on!
I may have been wrong!
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I used to be the same when I was young. No life experience and thought I was correct all the time. Then I began to realise what I gave out would come back around to me later on. Now I don't fight back and just move on and ignore people who try and verbally attack me. I used the put downs as ammunition to build my business up.
On the other forum they barred me because of a bully and I was the only person that would stand up to him. He even blocked me because my luck was getting stronger and his was diving way down. In the end they asked me to come back because the forum was dying but I had move on.
The best way is to rise above it, don't bite and your business will flourish or the opposite will happen. Been there , have the T shirt. The more folk one helps then the more good customers seem to appear because its called the law of reciprocation. I dare Everyone on here to try it till Christmas and you will be surprised by the outcome. You may laugh like I did but I couldn't dispute the results !!! 😉
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a complete waster came to look at the van said they were having it then just messed me around, I should have taken a deposit but didn't my fault,
I still really couldn't give a f what you or anyone else thinks of me, water straight off a ducks back,
A deposit , to come look at it ? ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that.
In the time you've been on this forum you have progressed from being a 20 year old lad with a ladder asking dumb questions, to a succesfull business operator operating maybe 7 or 8 vans. Your questions have got less and your remarks of "dickhead " or some such put down to people gathered pace.
You've consistently been an advocate of buying a new van as a second hand one is a waste of time............ but you also chose here to advertise your second hand vans ;D
You don't come across as a nice or helpful person at all. And as you said to Stoots.................. I know what level you are at, i think we all know your level too and your level is not a nice one.
Never been keen on you from your posts but that one is spot on!
I may have been wrong!
Its just the guys young age. Its ok for us with life experience to see what stage his life is at but in the next decade something will happen to make him sit back and contemplate what has happened. It may be a customer or employee who is taking him to court and he quickly realises what reality actually is. Gain wisdom as they say but wisdom is only experience and you can't buy it and you can't put an old head on young shoulders so just ignore reply's and move on. That's the best advice my lawyer gave me and he charged plenty for it but it was worth every penny.
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Never been keen on you from your posts but that one is spot on!
I may have been wrong!
My sarcasm doesnt always carry over well, i'm just trying to be nicer ;D