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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on December 02, 2019, 06:25:19 am

Title: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 02, 2019, 06:25:19 am
Been using rectus 22 and 26 if that's what they called
For years currently back on the bigger ones the 26.

Can anyone tell me what the best connections are?I've never tried to plastic ones are they actually better? because these things tend to corrode I must have replaced 1 per hose reel per month..lately
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Shrek on December 02, 2019, 07:13:14 am
Have we not already been through this  ???

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=216414.msg1966325#msg1966325

Can’t really help you if you ignore advice  :-X
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 02, 2019, 12:17:30 pm
Have we not already been through this  ???

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=216414.msg1966325#msg1966325

Can’t really help you if you ignore advice  :-X

Yeah I tried tape doesnt work for me.
Surely there must be something better people with 10 vans having to change connectors
20x a month?
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: alank on December 02, 2019, 12:51:02 pm
Slick connect .
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Stoots on December 02, 2019, 01:02:49 pm
My rectus last ages. Probably been on over a year.. 

But I rarely disconnect them, I suppose if you are constantly un clipping them you wear them out.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 02, 2019, 01:13:10 pm
Yes constantly disconnecting.
How do you keep yours connected do you have a tap attached ? I've tried that too but tap gets damaged and starts to leak as you drag it.
 slick connect I had that too. Spent like £100 on it.they start to also leak.the oring gets dirt inside and it starts to leak.not for me went back to rectus.

I've never tried the plastic hoselock you know like tap fitting on pole like the garden hose one.
Its plastic so cant corrode at least are those any good?
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Smudger on December 02, 2019, 02:37:39 pm
Average rectus fitting lasts 3 months
Only buy the pukka Parker hannifin ones

The guys connect pole in the morning and disconnect at the end of the day - rarely more than this

Darran
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: NWH on December 02, 2019, 05:00:41 pm
Cold water you’ll get away with John Guest straight fitting microbore to pole hose,probably get away with it for hot too.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: NWH on December 02, 2019, 05:02:38 pm
Even when you first fit those EZ fittings when new you should make sure that you use a lubricant,spray under the metal sleeve that clicks up and down it’ll make it last 10 times longer.
For years I did actually have bad batches of them they must have been Jap imports,in some cases they lasted a couple of days
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: dazmond on December 02, 2019, 06:02:01 pm
i use the rectus 26s and have done for years,i also constantly disconnect the pole hose between jobs to keep my heater running.....they usually last 5 or 6 months before i change them...the key is to spray them with WD40 every so often...it makes them last a lot longer...

ALSO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT........dont forget to change the male 26 fitting at the same time....
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Stoots on December 02, 2019, 07:43:44 pm
Yes constantly disconnecting.
How do you keep yours connected do you have a tap attached ? I've tried that too but tap gets damaged and starts to leak as you drag it.
 slick connect I had that too. Spent like £100 on it.they start to also leak.the oring gets dirt inside and it starts to leak.not for me went back to rectus.

I've never tried the plastic hoselock you know like tap fitting on pole like the garden hose one.
Its plastic so cant corrode at least are those any good?

not sure what you mean, i have a rectus on the microbore and connect it to my pole hose.

I use a 25 foot pole and it reaches almost everything on my round so i hardly ever need to uncouple it from the reel i just wind the pole hose onto the reel.

why do you need to disconnect so often ? do you swap poles frequently

Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: NWH on December 02, 2019, 11:02:45 pm
You can do this and reel the pole hose on to the reel as well but I don’t like doing this,it means you have to reel off the pole hose first before you can grab the first bit of the microbore.
Also if you don’t have a valve somewhere on your pole or brush when you put it away it’ll empty the water that’s in the pole hose into the back of the van all the time you pack away.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 03, 2019, 01:46:26 am
Hi it's disconnected because when you finish you need to go back to your pump turn the pump off during that time or the water is running. Unless you have a valve somewhere are near the pole end?
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Stoots on December 03, 2019, 07:07:42 am
Hi it's disconnected because when you finish you need to go back to your pump turn the pump off during that time or the water is running. Unless you have a valve somewhere are near the pole end?

Ok

I use a univalve, i just assumed everyone did these days...

What do you use then a tap or nothing?

I clean the windows go back to the van, turn the pump off and reel the hose in.

I don't see the point in disconnecting, just wasting time.

Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Stoots on December 03, 2019, 07:11:18 am
You can do this and reel the pole hose on to the reel as well but I don’t like doing this,it means you have to reel off the pole hose first before you can grab the first bit of the microbore.
Also if you don’t have a valve somewhere on your pole or brush when you put it away it’ll empty the water that’s in the pole hose into the back of the van all the time you pack away.

I don't see the issue with pulling the pole hose off first?

I've seen people disconnect it, then coil the pole hose up in a nice tidy loop then hang it up. Then connect it all again 2 mind later for the next job, just seems an unnescary step.

But yes you would need a univalve or a tap.

Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2019, 07:28:33 am
I never disconnect, I use slx 25 on everything.

1x brass reducer with 2 x o clips for hose reel to pole hose . I put gorilla tape around this connection so it doesn’t catch on corners .

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357807_078B0408-C55C-44A9-91D0-D5AE7E88C0BA.png)

1 x straight push fit connector for IF I need to take the pole off

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357875_E5242138-0731-41A9-91CD-4EF170381FE3.png)

1 x univalve

Total cost including univalve around £40. So far no connections have been changed since July .
After each job, reel all hose onto hose reel and hand pole up. No need to disconnect
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 03, 2019, 11:13:10 am
Ok thank you you looks like I've been stupid for many years. I need to get a few of these uni's..
So the Poles just stay connected all the time and you shut the water off with univalve.
Disconnecting doesn't just waste time it wastes water and it damages the connections every time.
Perhaps I have found the missing link going to get this now for all the reels.
I use the 2 balls to prevent it from rubbing on the floor
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2019, 11:20:50 am
Ok thank you you looks like I've been stupid for many years. I need to get a few of these uni's..
So the Poles just stay connected all the time and you shut the water off with univalve.
Disconnecting doesn't just waste time it wastes water and it damages the connections every time.
Perhaps I have found the missing link going to get this now for all the reels.
I use the 2 balls to prevent it from rubbing on the floor

Yep , connected all the time
- I was doing the same for years until I thought to myself, what a waste of time this is connecting all the time. I got rid of the balls too
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Smudger on December 03, 2019, 12:09:07 pm
Hi it's disconnected because when you finish you need to go back to your pump turn the pump off during that time or the water is running. Unless you have a valve somewhere are near the pole end?

Ok

I use a univalve, i just assumed everyone did these days...

What do you use then a tap or nothing?

I clean the windows go back to the van, turn the pump off and reel the hose in.

I don't see the point in disconnecting, just wasting time.

Not ole' Nigel, he's spent sooo much money running hot water that he can't afford £35 on a univalve - thats just soooo pikey, I mean really - using a univalve cleans the glass so much better than without one.....  ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Lauries cleaning on December 03, 2019, 01:04:19 pm
I used to have this problem. The rectus fitting would last a few weeks/months before getting difficult to connect/disconnect. Did the tubeless thing 2 years ago and the same fitting still works perfectly as it's protected inside the pole. A lot of people say the exceed kit is good, haven't tried it as I did a DIY version that works well but was a bit of faff. Theres one on eBay too:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575377984_Screenshot_20191203-125908.png)
I think that's the way to go to preserve the fitting though.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Smudger on December 03, 2019, 02:35:29 pm
oh, I wonder who is selling these  ;D ;D ;D ;D

nice kit - ordering a couple now !!

Darran
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Den68 on December 03, 2019, 04:58:45 pm
I never disconnect, I use slx 25 on everything.

1x brass reducer with 2 x o clips for hose reel to pole hose . I put gorilla tape around this connection so it doesn’t catch on corners .

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357807_078B0408-C55C-44A9-91D0-D5AE7E88C0BA.png)

1 x straight push fit connector for IF I need to take the pole off

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357875_E5242138-0731-41A9-91CD-4EF170381FE3.png)

1 x univalve

Total cost including univalve around £40. So far no connections have been changed since July .
After each job, reel all hose onto hose reel and hand pole up. No need to disconnect
I do exactly the same but use polymorph plastic over the brass reducer got the polymorph  idea off someone on here.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2019, 05:59:33 pm
I never disconnect, I use slx 25 on everything.

1x brass reducer with 2 x o clips for hose reel to pole hose . I put gorilla tape around this connection so it doesn’t catch on corners .

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357807_078B0408-C55C-44A9-91D0-D5AE7E88C0BA.png)

1 x straight push fit connector for IF I need to take the pole off

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1575357875_E5242138-0731-41A9-91CD-4EF170381FE3.png)

1 x univalve

Total cost including univalve around £40. So far no connections have been changed since July .
After each job, reel all hose onto hose reel and hand pole up. No need to disconnect
I do exactly the same but use polymorph plastic over the brass reducer got the polymorph  idea off someone on here.

Well that certainly beats my gorilla tape! Very good idea 💡

https://youtu.be/IhVuc6RNyaw
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 03, 2019, 07:23:28 pm
Got it sorted spent about £150 for 3 unvalves. Connected all with the blue hose saves alot of water and no more problems with connections.
I got exceed ones.
Looking forward to trying them out but it looks solid. Really clever little contraption.
Just a thought but I think this is how you do tubeless isn't it. In which case the power will be permanently connected to the hose.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Shrek on December 03, 2019, 07:58:53 pm
Yeah I use the blue exceed hose too, once your up and running with the univalves , you’ll think - why didn’t I do this sooner??!!!
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Smudger on December 03, 2019, 08:37:49 pm
Got it sorted spent about £150 for 3 unvalves. Connected all with the blue hose saves alot of water and no more problems with connections.
I got exceed ones.
Looking forward to trying them out but it looks solid. Really clever little contraption.
Just a thought but I think this is how you do tubeless isn't it. In which case the power will be permanently connected to the hose.

And......................





































welcome to the 21st Century  ;D
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Lauries cleaning on December 03, 2019, 09:36:09 pm
oh, I wonder who is selling these  ;D ;D ;D ;D

nice kit - ordering a couple now !!

Darran
I've been found out!
So not totally unbiased advice.. but still good advice hopefully to go tubeless to protect the coupler. Combined with Univalve it's great as there's no connector or tap to break and get stuck on corners.
Title: Re: Pole to hose connectors
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 03, 2019, 09:59:41 pm
tell me about it... its like ive been living in a window cleaning cave going to get the other poles also done at a later date just did the ones we use the most. THX again for the help btw this topic has finally been resolved after asking a second time ;D