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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: The Jester of Wibbly on November 19, 2017, 05:03:42 pm

Title: Body Cam
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on November 19, 2017, 05:03:42 pm
Anyone ever thought about this or tried it?


Maybe the thing that will help you out big time in the rare events of a false accusation or confrontation.

Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: Jonny 87 on November 19, 2017, 07:49:46 pm
What on earth are you getting accused of?

 :)
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: bobplum on November 19, 2017, 07:50:16 pm
i think you have to have a licence ??
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: bobplum on November 19, 2017, 07:52:48 pm
A headcam/bodycam is a 'hands-free' video recording (and possibly audio recording) device that is worn about the person in order to create a visual record from that person's point of view. This device will usually produce a video feed either to be viewed live by another person in another location, or to be somehow captured and stored for later review.

Individuals who view footage recorded by headcams/bodycams are likely to fall within the definition of public space surveillance (CCTV) activity. If you are employed to use CCTV equipment to monitor the activities of a member of the public in a public or private space, other than for the purposes of protecting property or identifying a trespasser (e.g. if you use CCTV to guard against outbreaks of disorder), and this activity is carried out in connection with any contract for the supply of services, then you will require a Public Space Surveillance (CCTV) licence.*

If you simply wear a headcam or bodycam but do not watch or review any of the footage from that device, the SIA takes the view that this does not fall within the public space surveillance (CCTV) definition. You would therefore not require a Public Space Surveillance (CCTV) licence.

When dealing with matters relating to public space surveillance (CCTV), the Data Protection Act 1998 (and the eight data protection principles that underpin the regulation) must be taken into consideration. Public space surveillance (CCTV) captures information about individuals, and information held by organisations that relates to individuals is covered by the Data Protection Act 1998. Most organisations that process personal data are required to register as a data controller with the Information Commissioner's Office.

*However, if you view footage recorded by headcams/bodycams solely for the purpose of protecting property or identifying a trespasser, then a Security Guard or Door Supervisor licence would be sufficient. Due to licence integration, a Public Space Surveillance (CCTV) licence would also cover you for this activity.
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on November 19, 2017, 07:57:00 pm
So how does this effect all the Dash Cams out there ?
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on November 19, 2017, 08:03:30 pm
What on earth are you getting accused of?

 :)


It's just an idea that's all. Nothing has happened.  After hearing so many stories of other wc getting accusational grief on social media for breaking or damaging things, leaving gates open, denial of their windows being cleaned and such.  Just a precautional measure to be able to provide evidence if required.
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: dazmond on November 19, 2017, 09:33:11 pm
What on earth are you getting accused of?

 :)


It's just an idea that's all. Nothing has happened.  After hearing so many stories of other wc getting accusational grief on social media for breaking or damaging things, leaving gates open, denial of their windows being cleaned and such.  Just a precautional measure to be able to provide evidence if required.

OTT springs to mind. I can count on one hand the issues I've had with the above problems in all the time ive been in this job. I certainly don't wanna be filming everyone while I'm working. It doesn't feel right to me. 
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on November 19, 2017, 09:41:44 pm
Yes. You're probably right there.
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: Stoots on November 19, 2017, 10:36:35 pm
Would be a great idea. I've been ripped off for 100s of pound last couple of years, would certainly have helped having concrete evidence of cleaning in some cases.

On a side note I always take a video of me posting a note on first cleans now, that's having been stung a fair few times...used it to good effect when I've had to make a court claim. 
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: Johnny B on November 20, 2017, 06:47:19 am
Would be a great idea. I've been ripped off for 100s of pound last couple of years, would certainly have helped having concrete evidence of cleaning in some cases.

On a side note I always take a video of me posting a note on first cleans now, that's having been stung a fair few times...used it to good effect when I've had to make a court claim.

I just use a duplicate book. If the customer says they don't have my note I can show them the copy. Never had to though.

John
Title: Re: Body Cam
Post by: Phil J on November 20, 2017, 07:16:00 am
I'm just shocked that Nathan doesn't wear one already!