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Title: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 08:47:15 am
Been using the Gardiners Quick- LoQ angle adapters since they came out.
Works for me.  ;)
What about you??


Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 06, 2016, 09:08:38 am
I have had a couple jam and I couldn't get the brush off without using a screwdriver..but I think they're a good idea and continue to use them  :)
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Soupy on March 06, 2016, 09:13:00 am
They tend to swell and jam. We spray them with silicone spray when we service the pole.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 09:42:47 am
Found if you lightly sand it until it fits in without forcing it in.
Also could check this out it will make it easier to put QL on your brushes without pressing the button in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giH5VGFTziY
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: SeanK on March 06, 2016, 10:05:35 am
I'm not one for constantly changing brushes so they don't do anything for me plus I like the option of being
able to angle the brush slightly for the odd window where its needed.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 10:23:32 am
 Have QLs  on all our poles.
 As all our tools have been adapted to fit on to a QL.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Smudger on March 06, 2016, 11:24:41 am
Not for me, I don't like the 90 degree socket makes the profile to big in narrow spaces , like others they can jam, but I believe Alex has addressed this problem

Darran
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Dave Willis on March 06, 2016, 11:29:20 am
Don't get on with them at all - I swap the whole neck and brush every time. Who ever invented it needs shooting!
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 11:32:15 am
Don't get on with them at all - I swap the whole neck and brush every time. Who ever invented it needs shooting!

HA HA HA LOL I am sure you will work it out. ::)roll
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Dave Willis on March 06, 2016, 11:38:55 am
I've used a quick loc system in different applications - even my windsurfer had an extendible boom with those poxy push buttons - it's crap.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 11:43:15 am
I've used a quick loc system in different applications - even my windsurfer had an extendible boom with those poxy push buttons - it's crap.
You must be doing something wrong never had any problems and used it on all our tools. :)
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Dave Willis on March 06, 2016, 11:48:38 am
Yes, what I'm doing wrong is not dismantling it twenty times in five minutes! Use it for a month or two in our dreadful weather with muck and water washing into the join then try and release it with gloves on or with freezing fingers - it's useless!
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: windowswashed on March 06, 2016, 11:51:22 am
Gardiners have modified and improved the quick loq system. Don't like them for two reasons: 1. easier to replace the whole gooseneck than replace the brush. 2Like the swivel as close to the brush as possible.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 11:55:41 am
Why would you want to dismantle it.
When we use it on a pole just for trad cleaning swap tools in/out all day without a problem??
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 06, 2016, 12:07:36 pm
Use Copaslip before you put it all together.  Then nothing sticks no matter how long it's been in use.

Vin
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 12:28:56 pm
Here are some projects did relating to QLs made them and all work no problems.
It's 11.20 PM here.
So will leave you with it,  give you something to do .LOL  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGXIM0LRMTcQXOQ_ZrfeIx9vy5mKmRe-N
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Spruce on March 06, 2016, 01:08:04 pm
Not for me, I don't like the 90 degree socket makes the profile to big in narrow spaces , like others they can jam, but I believe Alex has addressed this problem

Darran


Same here. I don't like the 90 degree socket. The angle brush adapter is much better. Alex doesn't bring out a Quick-loQ for the angle adapter, so I would go with the Exceed option if I needed to change brushes regularly.

Sorry H-Man, I'm confused as I thought you were the Quick-loQ originator and made your own.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: rosskesava on March 06, 2016, 08:29:39 pm
Use Copaslip before you put it all together.  Then nothing sticks no matter how long it's been in use.

Vin

I take it you mean this stuff:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molyslip-Copaslip-100g-Anti-Seize-Compound-Grease-Copperslip-Coppaslip-/281790397752?hash=item419c043d38:g:1HsAAOSw3ydV6Gn~
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Phil J on March 06, 2016, 08:32:13 pm
Their great for Julliet balconies!
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 06, 2016, 08:36:34 pm
Use Copaslip before you put it all together.  Then nothing sticks no matter how long it's been in use.

Vin

I take it you mean this stuff:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molyslip-Copaslip-100g-Anti-Seize-Compound-Grease-Copperslip-Coppaslip-/281790397752?hash=item419c043d38:g:1HsAAOSw3ydV6Gn~

That's the baby, and that amount will last you the rest of your life.  The tiniest smear does the job and stays in the connector for probably about six months.  I've bought a 500g tub (link below) but that's for all our franchisees combined.  And it's still far too much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BPNOFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01

Vin
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: rosskesava on March 06, 2016, 09:02:58 pm
That's the baby, and that amount will last you the rest of your life.  The tiniest smear does the job and stays in the connector for probably about six months.  I've bought a 500g tub (link below) but that's for all our franchisees combined.  And it's still far too much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BPNOFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01

Vin

Cheers for that Vin.

Just ordered it above from your link.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 09:06:03 pm


Same here. I don't like the 90 degree socket. The angle brush adapter is much better. Alex doesn't bring out a Quick-loQ for the angle adapter, so I would go with the Exceed option if I needed to change brushes regularly.

Sorry H-Man, I'm confused as I thought you where the Quick-loQ originator and made your own.
[/quote]
Yes that is correct but saying the one's I received from Alex which are the ones you have over your way.
Have no problems with the actual QL it self.
You also said something about Alex bring out a QL for a angle adapter is this what you mean??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WwbDRGjjlE
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: ChumBucket on March 06, 2016, 09:07:17 pm
I use them with long neck swivels, a bit of WD40 keeps it all working correctly.
However, I also MUCH prefer 45 degree sockets- makes everything work much better. I have hinted that Alex may wish to bring out a 45 degree QL socket but still await a response. ;D
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 06, 2016, 09:16:10 pm
I use them with long neck swivels, a bit of WD40 keeps it all working correctly.
However, I also MUCH prefer 45 degree sockets- makes everything work much better. I have hinted that Alex may wish to bring out a 45 degree QL socket but still await a response. ;D
Some thing like one of these??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNyV9A3oDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZyYG8-V8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBdkgrYdsI
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Spruce on March 06, 2016, 09:37:00 pm


Same here. I don't like the 90 degree socket. The angle brush adapter is much better. Alex doesn't bring out a Quick-loQ for the angle adapter, so I would go with the Exceed option if I needed to change brushes regularly.

Sorry H-Man, I'm confused as I thought you where the Quick-loQ originator and made your own.
Yes that is correct but saying the one's I received from Alex which are the ones you have over your way.
Have no problems with the actual QL it self.
You also said something about Alex bring out a QL for a angle adapter is this what you mean??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WwbDRGjjlE
[/quote]

No. Instead of a 90 degree QL I would like to try an angled QL
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Smudger on March 06, 2016, 09:37:24 pm
I more than hinted but the answer was no  :(

Still now I have the univalve head changes will be extremely fast - better than quick loc

Darran
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Smudger on March 06, 2016, 09:40:07 pm
Like this but QL

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1457300394_image.jpg)
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: SeanK on March 06, 2016, 10:48:40 pm
The above wouldn't work as a QL, a spring loaded ball bearing wouldn't be enough to stop the brush spinning in the
socket at the slightest bit of resistance.

Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 07, 2016, 06:12:48 am
Like this but QL

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1457300394_image.jpg)
Put this up earlier but only one person looked at it.
This is based on that angle ,
And yes have also suggested this to ???
Check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBdkgrYdsI


Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Smudger on March 07, 2016, 06:58:56 am
Don't want a swivel the bracket still makes the profile too wide

Darran
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 07, 2016, 07:42:20 am
Don't want a swivel the bracket still makes the profile too wide

Darran
Here is a video we did using this type of swivel.
Is this what you want it to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBUP3bY86s
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: dazmond on March 07, 2016, 08:18:25 am
ive used the quik locs since they came out.miles better than the screw thread type angle adaptors as sometimes i couldnt get the brush square on or they d move when scrubbing.

i did have a few problems with them jamming but alex seems to have fixed that now.the newer quik locs are a breeze to change brushes.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 07, 2016, 08:36:29 am
So not following what the problem is?
Is it this??
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11717371_10209027636276511_64940588434735116_o.jpg)
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Dave Willis on March 07, 2016, 05:11:35 pm
That's for the swivel. It gets the point of swivel as close to the brush head/glass as possible. Works extremely well.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: Perfect Windows on March 07, 2016, 05:19:06 pm
That's the baby, and that amount will last you the rest of your life.  The tiniest smear does the job and stays in the connector for probably about six months.  I've bought a 500g tub (link below) but that's for all our franchisees combined.  And it's still far too much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BPNOFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01

Vin

Cheers for that Vin.

Just ordered it above from your link.

Just to reiterate; use the tiniest of smears.  If you put too much of it anywhere and it's visible (say on the neck of the pole) wipe it off as it'll never wear off on its own and you don't want it to have even the slightest chance of it ending up on your brush bristles.

Vin
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 08, 2016, 01:27:00 am
That's for the swivel. It gets the point of swivel as close to the brush head/glass as possible. Works extremely well.
So are you talking about the 90%  to the brush on this ?
And change it so it has a slight angle down wards??
This way you would have better smoother side  movement.
Title: Re: PROS and CONS GARDINER Quick- LoQ
Post by: H MAN on March 08, 2016, 04:45:18 am
Something like this  ??? ::)roll
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12794781_10209035367789794_4571412509755893803_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12795173_10209035368269806_6907140566256937541_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/774939_10209035558954573_8866106687024456111_o.jpg)