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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 06:30:01 pm

Title: Can not get the staff!!!
Post by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 06:30:01 pm
We have had three guys in the last two months, they just don't want work half the time. How hard is it to find a good lad. 
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Post by: PoleKing on November 10, 2013, 06:31:37 pm
They are out there.
Plough through the dross to get to them though.
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Post by: rah on November 10, 2013, 06:36:04 pm
Very hard!
When you find a good one, make sure you keep him or you'll kick yourself later.
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Post by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 06:36:56 pm
What is a fair rate of pay??
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Post by: robertphil on November 10, 2013, 06:59:39 pm
i had to get rid of my main lad last week.   he  couldnt do a week without oversleeping

also working like a tortoise his heart wasnt in it , such a relief now hes gone as he was also plagued with clumsiness  n surliness

 a new lad been with me a month is steppin into his shoes alongside him a girl been with me 1.5 yrs .  so far so good  
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Post by: Frankybadboy on November 10, 2013, 07:10:47 pm
you go though between 5-10 before you find the right one ;)
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Post by: landy2 on November 10, 2013, 07:13:08 pm
as  mentioned above what would you clas as rate of pay .
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Post by: Frankybadboy on November 10, 2013, 07:19:58 pm
as  mentioned above what would you clas as rate of pay .
what would you class as a good days wage ;)
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Post by: robertphil on November 10, 2013, 07:21:42 pm
tell u summat it would make no diffrence if you paid 6.50 or 9.50  ,you either want to do it or you dont,  winter being the straw that breaks

i pay £7  which im sure is good and round up the hours always/  full week off at crimbo paid too  /wine and chocs from customers they get the lot
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Post by: landy2 on November 10, 2013, 07:22:04 pm
have not got clue that why i am asking  ??? ??? ???
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Post by: suds window service on November 10, 2013, 07:26:21 pm
£7.50 an hour is what I pay my staff.
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Post by: Danny Guest on November 10, 2013, 07:35:10 pm
Hi terry.

I pay £7 p/hr and have two great guys.

I have had two that started well at the start but soon started to slow down, find excuses, became unreliable, became ill on days when it rained and so on. You will soon know which is the right employee, you geta gut feel after a while.

Ill phone you tomorrow for that chat

Regards
Danny
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on November 10, 2013, 07:36:18 pm
£8.00 ph   only have help about 4 days a month.
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Post by: Frankybadboy on November 10, 2013, 07:40:12 pm
carrot in front of donkey think about it


I have a very good bloke who is a bit different but hes reliable, trust worthy caring and a steady worker

he aint going to make me millions but give him something to aim for as a bouns and he work a bit faster.


remember your never find someone whos got everything ;)
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Post by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 07:55:07 pm
Hi terry.

I pay £7 p/hr and have two great guys.

I have had two that started well at the start but soon started to slow down, find excuses, became unreliable, became ill on days when it rained and so on. You will soon know which is the right employee, you geta gut feel after a while.

Ill phone you tomorrow for that chat

Regards
Danny
not a problem mate speak soon
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Post by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 07:56:42 pm
We are starting them on £7 moving up to £8.50 per hour but they can not do a full week :)
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Post by: 3 Wheel Windy (Retired) on November 10, 2013, 08:24:02 pm
Doleys get 50 a day trad. Job and finish .  So you would have to pay a tenner an hour cards in to make it attractive.
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Post by: Richard iSparkle on November 10, 2013, 08:25:44 pm
We have had three guys in the last two months, they just don't want work half the time. How hard is it to find a good lad. 

there's no short cuts recruiting staff.  i;ve been recruiting for 6 yrs now and have made some bad mistakes.  only way i managed to get better at it is learning from each bad experience and learning a lot about recruitment and selection. you need to do all the profesisonal things to get good staff.

it comes down to your advertising (job centre), your interviews, cv checking, taking up references, work trialling...  and then managing from there on in.  so many ways you can get it wrong.

the main thing you need to remember is whatever happens, it is always your fault.  whatever they do, it's your fault.

it's no good saying the staff arent there or whatever.  

it;s not easy, but it saves a lot of hassle and heart ache when you get good at it.

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Post by: Diamond standard ltd on November 10, 2013, 08:48:49 pm
We have had three guys in the last two months, they just don't want work half the time. How hard is it to find a good lad. 

there's no short cuts recruiting staff.  i;ve been recruiting for 6 yrs now and have made some bad mistakes.  only way i managed to get better at it is learning from each bad experience and learning a lot about recruitment and selection. you need to do all the profesisonal things to get good staff.

it comes down to your advertising (job centre), your interviews, cv checking, taking up references, work trialling...  and then managing from there on in.  so many ways you can get it wrong.

the main thing you need to remember is whatever happens, it is always your fault.  whatever they do, it's your fault.

it's no good saying the staff arent there or whatever.  

it;s not easy, but it saves a lot of hassle and heart ache when you get good at it.


thanks, will take all this on board once again thanks for your time.
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on November 10, 2013, 09:17:58 pm
Doleys get 50 a day trad. Job and finish .  So you would have to pay a tenner an hour cards in to make it attractive.

I know what your saying but I dont think anyone is talking about taking on a doley window cleaner.

No matter how experienced someone is for me the money tops out as much as there is a starting rate otherwise they are eating into my money.

But for the sake of this thread I expect most people are talking about hiring someone and training them up?

saying that its not a problem i have im a bit of a lone wolf
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Post by: robertphil on November 10, 2013, 09:52:40 pm
watch out for dope smokers - very common but bad news in this game .
, theyre easy to spot, goattee beard comes first and then work at a true snails pace   . get rid before they fall 
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Post by: trippyboy on November 10, 2013, 10:06:02 pm
where do you stand with the law,ie holiday pay? sickness pay?
Can you take ppl on on a self employed basis ie only get paid for hours done,or has the law changed on this in recent times?
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Post by: windiewasher on November 10, 2013, 10:43:33 pm
Im back on my own.much better off and enjoying it more on my own plus i get no complaints.
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Post by: Simon Spencer on November 10, 2013, 10:50:10 pm
Pay peanuts get monkeys!

I've been employing now on & off the past 18 years, current top performing staff can make 30k a year, average earnings about 22k.
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Post by: Richard iSparkle on November 10, 2013, 11:56:43 pm
Pay peanuts get monkeys!

I've been employing now on & off the past 18 years, current top performing staff can make 30k a year, average earnings about 22k.

but also if you pay monkeys 22k a year, they'll still be monkeys.

paying people more doesn't make them better staff.