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Title: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 10, 2013, 10:57:44 pm
very happy.
Hes very keen and enjoys it,hes speeding up gradually and im sure in a few weeks will be a great asset.
It looks like its going to work out for the best.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 10, 2013, 11:14:18 pm
Sack him. Most would.  ;)
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 10, 2013, 11:17:07 pm
Sack him. Most would.  ;)
Lol
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: supernova77 on July 10, 2013, 11:50:49 pm
Quote
very happy.
Hes very keen and enjoys it,hes speeding up gradually and im sure in a few weeks will be a great asset.
It looks like its going to work out for the best.

Tell us how it's going after 3 - 6 months  ;)
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 06:15:47 am
good to hear its goin well
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: dazmond on July 11, 2013, 07:03:02 am
give it a few months.............then he ll start missing windows,turning up late or not at all,standing on customers plants,leaving gates wide open,stubbing fAgs out on customers driveways,breaking plant pots,solar lights etc.

then he ll try canvassing your work saying your giving it up and passing the work onto him.

....oh the memories! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

if he s any good and he has half a brain it wont be long before he starts up on his own!!


seriously though i hope it works out for you windiewasher


best wishes



dazmond
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 11, 2013, 07:09:08 am
spot on dazmond
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 11, 2013, 07:15:10 am
what h&s policy do you have in place for your worker ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 07:25:34 am
why so many negative posts  about employing .? if you couldnt hack it you couldnt hack it
 oh ive had bad workers to rival the worst of the worst (van wrecker/stalking traitor syndrome) but the fact is unless you are happy to burn yourself out  long before you can retire to Eastbourne/malibu ,employing is the way forward .
i personally am still on the tools but now with workers i can choose what i do so that i feel fresh as a daisy when i wake up each day and its a great feeling
think about it,if Henry Ford had given up employing he would have only built a few dozen cars on his own and likely done his back in in the process . instead id think he enjoyed his later years , im pretty sure i read somewhere he had a house in Malibu
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: dazmond on July 11, 2013, 07:42:08 am
my post is not negative mate i was half joking!!from my own experience i hated employing!why do you say you have to burn out if you work on your own? ::)roll

i know guys still working well into their sixties and they are fit as a fiddle.still on ladders too!!

the great thing about window cleaning is you can work the hours to suit your lifestyle.if you keep yourself pretty fit then being outside in the fresh air is a good thing no matter what age you are.

a few window cleaners on this forum are still window cleaning using trolleys too.i think dai is one of them and he s pushing 70!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 07:47:45 am
i hope im still able to climb a ladder at 70 myself.  id think the lads who stay a lone wolf long term keep their round small and compact .

burnout in all industrys is a real risk , iv known folk who hav crashed and burned because they did not pullout of the dive until it was too late .

in window cleaning the risk is on your shoulders or possibly your wrists
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 11, 2013, 07:51:09 am
I employee, and do not have any of the above mentioned issues.

Yes, you get annoyed sometimes over things that they do, but these are soon rectified.

I find employing is most benifical for me in the winter. Those cold miserble mornings when you cant be bothered to go do that annoying mission of a house or street, but you have to cos your employee turns up for work. Once your out there tho its fine.


At the end of the day, I have more money as a result of employing so I shall continue to do so.


Peace
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: dazmond on July 11, 2013, 08:10:56 am
i understand what your saying robertphil.i certainly have aching shoulders after a hectic week esp if i have some bigger  domestic/commercial jobs due coupled with conny roof cleans,fascia,soffit cleans.

but at 41 its not a problem.ive just invested in 2 extreme poles as well.

ive been known to change my mind from time to time so ive not ruled out employing again in future.

i think stretching and swimming help but i think ill start having a massage once or twice a month.just need to find a place thats not a brothel as thats what the massage places are like round here!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: andyM on July 11, 2013, 08:14:27 am
i understand what your saying robertphil.i certainly have aching shoulders after a hectic week esp if i have some bigger  domestic/commercial jobs due coupled with conny roof cleans,fascia,soffit cleans.

but at 41 its not a problem.ive just invested in 2 extreme poles as well.

ive been known to change my mind from time to time so ive not ruled out employing again in future.

i think stretching and swimming help but i think ill start having a massage once or twice a month.just need to find a place thats not a brothel as thats what the massage places are like round here!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

You will be guaranteed "A happy ending" Daz  ;D
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: roundbuilder on July 11, 2013, 09:04:07 am
How are you paying him windie?? I hope hour doing it the correct way to avoid grief when you last expect it. i got stung by the tax man as was doing it as self employed with them signing invoices and not careing if they paid there tax or not as long as i did mine i thought i was ok which totally isnt allowed which got me investigated and they found all the little niggles over 6 years and billed me hefty for them. Defo get the correct insure too as you will come proper unstuck if anything did happen..
Its good to find an enthusiastic worker, if he is middle aged with family then that should be enough to keep him on the straight and narrow, if i didnt have 2 poof's working my other round id get family guy in who would depend on the wage to pay he's bills etc.
Hope all goes from silver to gold for you mate! You certanly have the ambition just dont make the mistakes of cutting corners like i did at the start thinking your untouchable.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 09:22:09 am
Thanks for some great advice even if some were negative.
Its a 26 year old with kids.
Hes keen and enthusiastic.
Yes going through sage on the internet to sort his wages and doing it official.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 11, 2013, 09:25:50 am
still on the tools after that  its not moving forward is it.  

i personally am still on the tools  

Hmm. Im saying nuffin!  ;D
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 04:43:16 pm
still on the tools after that  its not moving forward is it.  

i personally am still on the tools  

Hmm. Im saying nuffin!  ;D
touche!  ;D  but i WILL be off the tools afore ye 
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 11, 2013, 04:55:05 pm
You have to retire at 65 you know

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: mark dew on July 11, 2013, 07:07:04 pm
The best of luck with employing. It's interesting reading this.
It could be the start of something great. A bit like david st ives progress not that long back.
Another go getter post to follow on here. Nice 1.
Keep us posted.  :)
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 08:11:15 pm
The best of luck with employing. It's interesting reading this.
It could be the start of something great. A bit like david st ives progress not that long back.
Another go getter post to follow on here. Nice 1.
Keep us posted.  :)
Thanks your kind words mark.
Will update regular cheers
Are you currently employing mark?
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: mark dew on July 11, 2013, 08:31:09 pm
No. Have had people out with me but I work solo.

Thing is 9 year ago when I started I thought i'd have the ability to get abroad for a month or maybe 3 over the winter months. But it hasn't worked out like that.
It's been days or a week here and there but that's it.

The only way I see myself getting my October - January sightsee abroad is to employ.
I'm not ready for that though.
Hence my interest in yours and other posts on here about progress made and moving forward etc.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 08:37:56 pm
never let an employee have access to your jobs list , the list is GOLD and can be plundered
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 08:39:01 pm
No. Have had people out with me but I work solo.

Thing is 9 year ago when I started I thought i'd have the ability to get abroad for a month or maybe 3 over the winter months. But it hasn't worked out like that.
It's been days or a week here and there but that's it.

The only way I see myself getting my October - January sightsee abroad is to employ.
I'm not ready for that though.
Hence my interest in yours and other posts on here about progress made and moving forward etc.
Im using it to drive me on,lots of my custys are very happy and are recommending me to there friends as they know im taking on more work.
 im going to start doing a lot of canvasding over the next few months,i have my worker canvassing with me to help get the work to have him full time.
 will also be doing a 10k leaflet drop over the next 2 months.
 go for it,you will get your holidays.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 08:39:49 pm
never let an employee have access to your jobs list , the list is GOLD and can be plundered
I wouldnt m8.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 11, 2013, 08:44:02 pm
never let an employee have access to your jobs list , the list is GOLD and can be plundered
I wouldnt m8.
so you don't trust him already.

what you going todo when your on hols and hes working on his own,not tell him the prices of the work
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 08:46:40 pm
I will have holidays at the same time as he doesnt drive.
He will know prices as hes canvassing.
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 08:50:02 pm
one idea might be to have a false job list laying on the dashboard . long as You remember which list is which
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: mark dew on July 11, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
Yes i'll have to do it sometime for sure. But it will have to be all or nothing and will involve a lifestyle change.

As for trust and holidays etc, that's all stuff that will be learnt and achieved in some form along the way.
Hopefully he will strike lucky with this 1st employee but if it isn't him it will be another. There's lots of issues to overcome when employing but now he's 'doing' he will learn quickly.

Or give up employing and concentrate on a round that gives him income and easy life.

Good luck
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: robertphil on July 11, 2013, 09:00:45 pm
You should be very safe as he doesnt drive .

  i have found its quite exciting to have employees and rewarding too .you become a minor pillar of society and command  respect, up to a point

 i could never step back to being solo now,for starters the sheer workload would kill me
Title: Re: 2 days in with new worker.
Post by: windiewasher on July 11, 2013, 09:03:35 pm
You should be very safe as he doesnt drive .

  i have found its quite exciting to have employees and rewarding too .you become a minor pillar of society and command  respect, up to a point

 i could never step back to being solo now,for starters the sheer workload would kill me
Cheers robert.
I plan to let the business grow and hopefully sit back and have fingers in other pies.my mrs has her ceramic pottery studio but i would love to open a cafe down the seafront.