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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Window Washers on November 29, 2012, 11:57:14 am
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Do you guys use Facebook, twitter and youtube for your business?
if you do, how are you finding it is going for you?
if you are, which ones are you using and getting results on
if your not, what is stopping you from using social media for your business ?
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I dont use any of the above. I dont want work scattared aboUt all over the place. Not that desperate to gain uncompact work. Prefere to find the work myself.
If i was just starting up then it would be a different matter as id need as much custom as i could get.
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cheers for the reply Mick,
anyone else, what are your feelings on this topic ?
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Not on Facebook or twitter or owt else !
Stuck in my ways I suppose but everyone I need to stay in contact with I do face to face
One of my customers did set up something for me on Facebook though a few months ago (I only had her and 1 other in the village where she lives so she said she'd put the word about) and now I've got 9 customers thru her recommendation :)
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same as mick, plus I don't want to clean my friends windows and I am not in the habit of accepting friend requests from people I don't know anyway.
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With a background in sales and marketing my conscience is screaming at me to sort facebook and a website. I've only been in the window cleaning business a couple of years and I already know that my greatest new source of reliable business is word of mouth recommendations.
Facebook requires regular updates of "interesting content" to work successfully but it works very well at a social level and is ideally suited to domestic cleaners. Website is a no brainer, which makes me stupid!
Duncan
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I use Facebook, Twitter & Google plus but none of them are being used to their full potential though.
Paul
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Can't see the point to be honest. But then I have a full round anyway.
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Can't see the point to be honest. But then I have a full round anyway.
same has,need more staff me ;D ;D ;D
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I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
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I use Facebook and it works brilliantly as a customer comments on her account that she has a brilliant window / carpet cleaner and all her friends can see it.
I've picked up loads of work with it, and despite what some folk say, you can NEVER have too much work ;)
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I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
why do you think its not good for window cleaning? same question to anyone else thinking the same way ?
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I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
why do you think its not good for window cleaning? same question to anyone else thinking the same way ?
Would it not be better to tell us why you think we should be using these media?
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I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
why do you think its not good for window cleaning? same question to anyone else thinking the same way ?
Would it not be better to tell us why you think we should be using these media?
im trying to understand what others think about it Joe, I have no problem explaining why I think you should be using it and how to, but this is not the reason for this post.
im interested in what others think about it, whats stopping them going on it, why they use it and so on. Why they hate it even
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Ill be honest Ian,
I don't use social media because I don't how to - I wouldn't know how to maximise it and take advantage of its full potential
Not sure anyone I know would know either!
I'm not a technophobe, I've just never bothered :)
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Ill be honest Ian,
I don't use social media because I don't how to - I wouldn't know how to maximise it and take advantage of its full potential
Not sure anyone I know would know either!
I'm not a technophobe, I've just never bothered :)
Thanks for the post. I am wondering how many more window cleaners feel the very same way you do, thanks for honest reply.
Anyone else want to give thier thought on this subject, good or bad
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Ill be honest Ian,
I don't use social media because I don't how to - I wouldn't know how to maximise it and take advantage of its full potential
Not sure anyone I know would know either!
I'm not a technophobe, I've just never bothered :)
Thanks for the post. I am wondering how many more window cleaners feel the very same way you do, thanks for honest reply.
Anyone else want to give thier thought on this subject, good or bad
Is all this research for your new training course Ian?
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I think all this social media stuff is an age related thing. My kids would love it but many of us above a certain age wouldn't have a clue or any interest in it. Facebook would be the last place I'd personally look for a tradesman.
The younger customers aren't the ones I want.
I've never understood why anyone feels the need to put their photo album in front of millions of people they don't even know ???
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I think all this social media stuff is an age related thing. My kids would love it but many of us above a certain age wouldn't have a clue or any interest in it. Facebook would be the last place I'd personally look for a tradesman.
The younger customers aren't the ones I want.
I've never understood why anyone feels the need to put their photo album in front of millions of people they don't even know ???
thanks for the post, that's a very interesting post
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I think its the future but not the pressent.
Getting started in all this techy stuff now maybe the setting in stone of future advertising.
I wait and let the kids sort it out ;D
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Hoping more people at very least vote on the poll to give a better overview
100 is the aim so getting there :)
Keep your comments coming I will try to make it worth everyone's effort
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We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.
Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.
I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.
Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.
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All the time keep an eye on my local trade club group, over 9,000 members on there. Anyone asks for a window cleaner and I get linked to them by someone. Great for feedback too.
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And Twitter for simply getting the subliminal message out there. We also have a great tackle shop owner down here who tweets the weather, he is very accurate.
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IT IS THE DEVILS WORK why would anybody want to connect with total strangers.
Just dont see it working for a business what the hell would you put on the page,
Monday cleaned windows today nice and sunny .
Tuesday cleaned windows today bit rainy.
And get them really worked up for a friday and post some pics of window cleaning people will be going crazy .
I just dont see the benefit to be honest posting an add which will show up on peoples Facebook page which is within your postcode area that may work . Mike
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We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.
Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.
I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.
Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.
We all have a different view on things and yours is a very valid one, cheers for posting your thoughts.
Anyone else what to share thier thoughts on this ?
if not at least could you at least vote on the poll please :)
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We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.
Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.
I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.
Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.
I used to think that about Facebook. About 2 years ago, a custy opened a page for us and explained the benefits. I was sceptic, but did a few things she advised. I posted on local selling sites and clubs or interest pages and it went balistic. The most successful page we had was for carpet & upholstery cleaning. We would get about 1000 quids worth of work from that page per month! The window cleaning face book page was set up to PM custies about access or payment etc etc. We hardly use them now as the window cleaning page is mostly PM's to get payment and access but I no longer use it to advertise as we aren't really looking for more customers at the moment.
The carpet & upholstery cleaning page is also very slow now as we've branched off into the local German market as this is more lucrative than the M.O.D. customers we have over here.
We also opened a German Facebook page to help get a better Google ranking, it was up to about 1400 likes within the first year. We get work from that too.
Have a look if you want, no need to like them, as this will bring nothing for either party.
Window page http://www.facebook.com/BFG.Window.Cleaner?v=wall
carpet page for M.O.D. custies (Brits)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BFG.Carpet.Cleaner/
Lastly, our Gurmun page that we only PM customers on.
http://www.facebook.com/Powell.Herford?ref=hl
I've no interest in twitter and I found the Facebook system was a great idea for us at that time, but now we no longer need it. Worth a try though if you want. We'd always post on club / interest and selling sites telling people who we are and what we do, and how to contact us.
Hope this helped.
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We've had this conversation on here before, I still subscribe to the same opinion I had about then. People do not go on Facebook to look for a window-cleaner.
Your friend on FB might be the friend of a window-cleaner who is also on FB, but the chances are that he is either in a different country, as thats the nature of the internet, or simply far too many miles away for it to be considered. If I wanted a chippy or a sparky I'd look in our local village mag or use an online directory or ask someone I knew who had used one,which is what I did about a month ago when we needed the use of a plasterer. I did not look on FB and the thought of it didn't occur to me, for one second.
I know you said about a year or more ago Ian that FB was the next big marketing 'thing'. Sorry chap, but it isn't.
Saying that I do have an FB page for my business, I doubt Ive had ANY work from it. In fact Id bet my house on it that I havent; takes too much effort anyway. There was someone on here a few months back used to post on his websites blog about his day at work. That lasted about 2 weeks. Haven't got the time, too busy working.
I used to think that about Facebook. About 2 years ago, a custy opened a page for us and explained the benefits. I was sceptic, but did a few things she advised. I posted on local selling sites and clubs or interest pages and it went balistic. The most successful page we had was for carpet & upholstery cleaning. We would get about 1000 quids worth of work from that page per month! The window cleaning face book page was set up to PM custies about access or payment etc etc. We hardly use them now as the window cleaning page is mostly PM's to get payment and access but I no longer use it to advertise as we aren't really looking for more customers at the moment.
The carpet & upholstery cleaning page is also very slow now as we've branched off into the local German market as this is more lucrative than the M.O.D. customers we have over here.
We also opened a German Facebook page to help get a better Google ranking, it was up to about 1400 likes within the first year. We get work from that too.
Have a look if you want, no need to like them, as this will bring nothing for either party.
Window page http://www.facebook.com/BFG.Window.Cleaner?v=wall
carpet page for M.O.D. custies (Brits)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BFG.Carpet.Cleaner/
Lastly, our Gurmun page that we only PM customers on.
http://www.facebook.com/Powell.Herford?ref=hl
I've no interest in twitter and I found the Facebook system was a great idea for us at that time, but now we no longer need it. Worth a try though if you want. We'd always post on club / interest and selling sites telling people who we are and what we do, and how to contact us.
Hope this helped.
Thanks Chris Great post.
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Ian, the great question avoider...lol
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i use face book and You tub, they are future for any business who wants to expand.
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Ian, the great question avoider...lol
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sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect
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I've just used bath tub.
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ive got over 1500 friends on facebook and do post statuses up with variety of pics etc conny cleans, gutters and driveways and window cleaning etc i find you get a lot of people asking for quotes etc but not a great deal materialises, as a lot of them are friends i feel i have to quote a little lower n then still dont get the work i do it more as just general marketing get the name out there, on twitter i have say once a week tweet to a lot of businesses asking if they require free quote etc never had anything tho
id say facebook work the best for me
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Just voted Ian,
Hopefully sorting out website/leaflets and social over xmas period. Will pop a load of beers your way if you want to help ;)
After our chat about the "perfection bit" i put it into practice.
On Thursday my average per hour was well up!!!! and with loads and loads and loads of travelling. 6 villages!
excellent stuff glad to help you :) and of course i will help you on that side, beer sounds good :)
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Ian, the great question avoider...lol
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sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect
Sounds like a good idea.
No doubt the haters will be out in force soon tho!
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Ian, the great question avoider...lol
:P
sorry Simon answer it is research yes but not a really a training course more a downloadable guide to help those that what to no some basic things on this subject free of charge. I just need to get more votes on the poll and more questions and reasons why people like hate don't understand it., whats stopping them doing it ect
Sounds like a good idea.
No doubt the haters will be out in force soon tho!
i hope so, and no doubt at all lol but I've delt with far worse in my life mate, so I'm sure I will cope :)
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Thanks to everyone so far that has posted their views and the guys that have voted
So who's reading this and hasn't voted or commented please at least vote I'm genuinely interested in your views.
Ian
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I'm only 4 months in but don't want to use any of them. I think they are a great media for advertising (just look at the companies who are using them) but not for window cleaning. Effective advertising is about getting the best return for the effort and resources you put in. For me it's canvassing.
why do you think its not good for window cleaning? same question to anyone else thinking the same way ?
It's not the place I would look to go and find a window cleaner (or any other product or service for that matter)
It's more geared up for young people (not a bad thing, but it limits my potential market for customers). Probably in 15 years it will be the best place to advertise!
I only want customers in my local town and surrounding villages. Facebook is more UK wide.
If I spent three hours sorting out a facebook account and updating it etc, I just think my time would be better spent canvassing.
If my website was properly sorted, my leafletting was consistent and regular and I had covered all the other angles of how to get new custys, then I would give facebook a go. Any opportunity to get new business should never be overlooked. But you have to go with what works for you.
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ian do you find facebook rewarding to your business at this time or are you thinking for the future
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http://nj1015.com/these-photos-are-proof-albert-einstein-was-correct-about-technology/
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http://nj1015.com/these-photos-are-proof-albert-einstein-was-correct-about-technology/
thats excellent thanks for sharing it, that picture should also show you something else too if you look deeper
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Theyre all checking their boyfriends abs?
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I just did a search on Facebook for a window cleaner near you Ian, see if you came up in the results, this what I got.
(http://www.oakleywindowcleaning.co.uk/neots.png)
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matt page it is not there thats why, I'm having to reverse something i done a few years back when I first started due to face books terms, can we keep this on topic rather than turning it into another pop about me post
Cheers fella ;)
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facebook & twitter are for nosey b******* dont use any of them for anything.
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facebook & twitter are for nosey b******* dont use any of them for anything.
care to explain please
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matt page it is not there thats why, I'm having to reverse something i done a few years back when I first started due to face books terms, can we keep this on topic rather than turning it into another pop about me post
Cheers fella ;)
Yeah, watch it matt, he bleats to the mods & gets you banned if you don't behave! He might even get his sidekick "richard" on to you!! :(
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matt page it is not there thats why, I'm having to reverse something i done a few years back when I first started due to face books terms, can we keep this on topic rather than turning it into another pop about me post
Cheers fella ;)
Yeah, watch it matt, he bleats to the mods & gets you banned if you don't behave! He might even get his sidekick "richard" on to you!! :(
i didn't want you banned i but again you know nothing about me clearly, I don't have a clue who Richard is or what you mean by that, if you have to follow my posts at least try to add some value or stop trolling its going past banter. **Please note** if you continue again to get personal with me or my business i will report you again thats not bleating or being sly I'm tell you to your face/screen.
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matt page it is not there thats why, I'm having to reverse something i done a few years back when I first started due to face books terms, can we keep this on topic rather than turning it into another pop about me post
Cheers fella ;)
Yeah, watch it matt, he bleats to the mods & gets you banned if you don't behave! He might even get his sidekick "richard" on to you!! :(
i didn't want you banned i but again you know nothing about me clearly, I don't have a clue who Richard is or what you mean by that, if you have to follow my posts at least try to add some value or stop trolling its going past banter. **Please note** if you continue again to get personal with me or my business i will report you again thats not bleating or being sly I'm tell you to your face/screen.
another fight? yeah!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Please keep it civil, we don't ban people just because someone reports you.
we look at all the evidence and whats good for the foum
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Please keep it civil, we don't ban people just because someone reports you.
we look at all the evidence and whats good for the foum
i try, so back to topic who else would like to add their views on social media ?
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Please keep it civil, we don't ban people just because someone reports you.
we look at all the evidence and whats good for the foum
It's a shame you don't ban for bullpoop! ;D
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It is now the season of goodwill, lets all have a happy crimbo
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;D
Need another 23 votes have you taken part
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17 more votes are needed guys have you added yours, please post a comment on here about your thoughts on social media
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Hi Ian
Whats it all about ?
why do you need the votes?
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Hi Ian
Whats it all about ?
why do you need the votes?
to give a fair overview of what window cleaners think about social media Dave thats all.
im going to write an article about it.
just wanted to see what other window cleaners thought of social media i find it fasinating reading other peoples views.
Please dont worry I am not going to try and sell anything on here (and if I did I would talk to admin, I know the rules)
Dont you find it interesting reading what other people think ?
Ian
p.s 16 more votes now :)
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Hi Ian
I only like talking about myself
me me me me me
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Under 15 votes left anyone what to add there's
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If you are established I can 100% see why social media is not attractive but for a new starter I think it's imperative. A smartphone is a tool to be used 24 hours a day IMHO.
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If you are established I can 100% see why social media is not attractive but for a new starter I think it's imperative. A smartphone is a tool to be used 24 hours a day IMHO.
why do you think that Andy ?
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If you are established I can 100% see why social media is not attractive but for a new starter I think it's imperative.
that's interesting... i would have assumed the oposite!
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Im what youd call a new starter. I'm also probably what you'd call younger generation. I'll be honest, social media has never interested me, i cant understand the infactuation of telling everyone about your life.
In regards to weather i think facebook, twitter etc would help me business wise, i honestly dont know enough about how it would help so i havent bothered. I understand that if i keep knocking doors, and keep doing a good job cleaning my business grows. I also dont think i need to do anything more for the time being as canvassing and cleaning is time consuming as it is.
Maybe social media would be great for business expansion....but as i said, i dont understand or know how it would be so i havent.
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Canvassing will always be a great method as you are there on the spot to quote and take details.
WOM works in many social platforms; school gate, down the pub, dinner parties to name but 3. if you observe people out and about you see them constantly with their smartphones at the ready, any of their cyber friends posts on fb and they are on it, responding and interacting over the ether. it's massive.
They don't just direct message either, there are local 'for sale and wanted anytown' groups where people just aimlessly sift through the posts and topics waiting to contribute and comment. The main group that I gain referrals from covers a radius of less than 10 miles from my home address (pop circa 60,000). This one group has over 9,000 members, now that is a very large audience to connect with!
When someone asks on there for a local window cleaner on there people recommend me, occasionally someone posts a number for ANother local window cleaner but more and more people are tagging me. I've had this happen whereby I've had others join in asking for quotes too.
I just think that fb is a platform like no other, doesn't replace other methods nor does it compete, it compliments whatever other methods you use.
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That's a great way to describe it Pride n Clean, lots ad lots of people are 'infatuated' with their smartphones ie facebook.
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That's a very good post Andy and spot on with everyone with smart phones at the ready ;)
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Sorry wasnt slagging off social media if it came across that way :)
Just think that most of the time people dont tend to try and do stuff if they dont understand how to use it or why it would benefit (me included)
Personally, i would like to learn how to use facebook etc one day to help grow the business, just dont understand how me updating my status about my day would interest anyone :D
Id imagine there would be more to it than that but hence the lack of understanding.
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I have my own personal fb guru.
I think that some people who've decided to go self employed of a certain age want to explore this market and want the tools and know how to do it.
As Robert Zimmermann say's:
"Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'."
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I have my own personal fb guru.
I think that some people who've decided to go self employed of a certain age want to explore this market and want the tools and know how to do it.
As Robert Zimmermann say's:
"Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'."
love that
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DC, this site is a form of social media, it is basically a place where people exchange views and information.
The target audience here is people who clean windows, whether someone wants to ask for the best brush or wants to share a flyer design, it all boils down to a form of 'socialising'.
You hear a lot from people of my generation and above really getting irate at seeing people on the internet and facebook in particular. It is just their opinion and it is 100% valid....to them and to us who want to attract them as customers. If I have a customer slag off facebook and 'the younger generation' ad nausea, I don't disagree with them as that would be counter productive, I already have their attention and we have a conversation about it, always mindful that they are ALWAYS RIGHT, even when they are sort of wrong.
Bear in mind that this is all 'in my humble opinion' and counts for nought to anyone else in the real world, I am only speaking from my very limited experience.
How many companies, let alone window cleaners, had one of 'those fancy website thingies' 20 years ago?
Btw, today is the 20th anniversary of the very first ever text message being sent! I can't imagine anyone setting out in business in the now not knowing how to send a text, not a chance imho.
Th@ 1st eva txt message? 'merry christmas' very original.
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I would imagine the theory is pretty simple...?
Catch peoples attention and create interest (the social media) then its up to you to sell and close??
I guess its just working out what to do to create the interest (id imagine this is were all this is leading)
Id quite like to learn how to do it to be honest, i know a guy who paid someone to create and maintain a facebook page, and it was.....pathetic. Id imagine done properly it works quite well.
Also a lot of people have the impression of why bother as i can get my kids to do it, but i guess if our customers had that attitude i wouldnt be window cleaning!!
Just my two pennies, but i am i interested in learning about it all, no harm eh??
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I only use Youtube for Wagga work-wise.
Personal use for Billy Bragg, The Jam, Kirsty McColl, Floyd, Led Zep.......................
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There's a large element of the subliminal in it too I feel. I'd suggest that peopel don;t over egg it or their ads/posts could cause annoyance, the occasional post at varying times of day may be a good approach.
By subliminal I mean that although people may not realise it they have read a post that you make and have not idly skimmed over it. Make no mistake, people have no idea what info their brains absorb in general day to day situations.
If you have a facebook account, go to the bottom of your home page and click on 'pages' - 'create a page' and follow your nose. You have nought to lose as you can delete a test page once you've had a play. Keep it 'private' whilst you tinkering though.
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Direct selling on Facebook tends not to work very well it's classed as spamming by most people, getting people to know like and trust you will do you massive dividends
I will be doing a set up guide to follow tailored to each social media platform I'm half way through the second one these will be free too.
Just need 4 3 more votes
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Only votes needed now :)
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One more and I can lock this vote off :). Thanks for all that have taken part
Who's going to be voter 100 ? Please add a comment here when you do it ;)
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Will it have pictures?
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Will it have pictures?
do you need pictures ?
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Yes and not too many big words please.
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i have a link from my website to my facebook page. my facebook page...
Richard's Cleaning Services.
i have all of the pictures i have taken at various commercial sites stored on it, it allows potential customers to get a feel of whom or what they can expect when using me...
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Just starting out in window cleaning so can't tule it out. Or in.
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Just starting out in window cleaning so can't tule it out. Or in.
what would you like to know about it Papa ?
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I have a question Whats it going to cost and what will you be offering that all the other social media managment companys don't already offer ??? ???
it is a huge market and as the young get older they will turn into good customers ;D ;D
http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q (http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q)
http://maximizesocialmedia.com/
(http://maximizesocialmedia.com/)
http://sproutsocial.com/ (http://sproutsocial.com/)
Thanks Paul
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I have a question Whats it going to cost and what will you be offering that all the other social media managment companys don't already offer ??? ???
it is a huge market and as the young get older they will turn into good customers ;D ;D
http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q (http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q)
http://maximizesocialmedia.com/
(http://maximizesocialmedia.com/)
http://sproutsocial.com/ (http://sproutsocial.com/)
Thanks Paul
this is going to cost you nothing Paul, thats one difference, the second im a window cleaner which they are not. of course if i was employed to do a job on your behalf then i would charge for my time, but this is just to help people out, i can use it for something else im doing so i benifit giving you it :)
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I have a question Whats it going to cost and what will you be offering that all the other social media managment companys don't already offer ??? ???
it is a huge market and as the young get older they will turn into good customers ;D ;D
http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q (http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q)
http://maximizesocialmedia.com/
(http://maximizesocialmedia.com/)
http://sproutsocial.com/ (http://sproutsocial.com/)
Thanks Paul
this is going to cost you nothing Paul, thats one difference, the second im a window cleaner which they are not. of course if i was employed to do a job on your behalf then i would charge for my time, but this is just to help people out, i can use it for something else im doing so i benifit giving you it :)
so hurry up and just get on with it please :) :)..and before you ask what i want to know its simple really how to make money from it all :)
paul
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I have a question Whats it going to cost and what will you be offering that all the other social media managment companys don't already offer ??? ???
it is a huge market and as the young get older they will turn into good customers ;D ;D
http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q (http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q)
http://maximizesocialmedia.com/
(http://maximizesocialmedia.com/)
http://sproutsocial.com/ (http://sproutsocial.com/)
Thanks Paul
this is going to cost you nothing Paul, thats one difference, the second im a window cleaner which they are not. of course if i was employed to do a job on your behalf then i would charge for my time, but this is just to help people out, i can use it for something else im doing so i benifit giving you it :)
so hurry up and just get on with it please :) :)..and before you ask what i want to know its simple really how to make money from it all :)
paul
its going to take time mate not something i can get done over night far from it
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Will be good for us if it works just don't let the thread bashers in on it ;D ;D ;D
They are all great business men that spend all day on cleanitup great use of time :-X :-X
Paul
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I have a question Whats it going to cost and what will you be offering that all the other social media managment companys don't already offer ??? ???
it is a huge market and as the young get older they will turn into good customers ;D ;D
http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q (http://www.socialexposure.co.uk/?gclid=COKawbnSg7QCFUfJtAodZSwA1Q)
http://maximizesocialmedia.com/
(http://maximizesocialmedia.com/)
http://sproutsocial.com/ (http://sproutsocial.com/)
Thanks Paul
this is going to cost you nothing Paul, thats one difference, the second im a window cleaner which they are not. of course if i was employed to do a job on your behalf then i would charge for my time, but this is just to help people out, i can use it for something else im doing so i benifit giving you it :)
so hurry up and just get on with it please :) :)..and before you ask what i want to know its simple really how to make money from it all :)
paul
its going to take time mate not something i can get done over night far from it
fair play.
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If you join a local group would you expect to pay for exclusivity?
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If you join a local group would you expect to pay for exclusivity?
Me personally it would depend if it was a paid group and/or if it was an open or closed group, open I would not pay for it as it would not be able to be monitored enough imo as theres way around paying, if you could do deals and there was a good amount of traffic and it was lazer targeted I without a doubt pay for the traffic source anyone would be mad not to IMO
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voting is back open if you didnt get the chance to.
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I think the only ones making money out of social media is the ones selling it to us
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I think Ian has the names of most of his victims lined up nicely now ;)
I wonder if they will be getting a call soon ;D
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I think the only ones making money out of social media is the ones selling it to us
This forum needs a "Like" button!!
;D ;D ;D
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I think the only ones making money out of social media is the ones selling it to us
or could it be that people buy the wrong thing because they know no better ? And there are many companies only to willing to take the money, just a thought