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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve CM on November 11, 2011, 06:20:53 pm
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Anyone else got an area? Thought I'd give it a whirl, I'm up for anything that brings in some more work. Worth a pop!
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How have you managed that there site doesn't seem to be up and running yet did you contact them direct.
Paul
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Yeah it's live. I emailed them and got an area
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yeah i was going to give it shot and see what happpens
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What is the website that you did this through?
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click the refresh button and you will see the new site
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http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/signup/
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click the refresh button and you will see the new site
thanks
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just bought an area, £25 got to be worth a go.
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just bought an area - 25 notes gotta be worth a pop.
local village link mag is £39 a month
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Gutted just went to get hemel commercial and its gone ha ha
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Hi look at this and when i brought my area, my brother tried it and he brought the same area..Email them but they never replied, now waiting on paypal open case.
So they sold us the same postcodes
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just bought an area, £25 got to be worth a go.
you say £25.00 but was there any other costs involved such has a deposit etc
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Me too,
I've just got my local area to build up by our base 8) 8) 8)
Dean
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Hi look at this and when i brought my area, my brother tried it and he brought the same area..Email them but they never replied, now waiting on paypal open case.
So they sold us the same postcodes
ive just put in a bogus name and address to try and buy the postcodes ive just secured under 'marks window cleaning services' - cant do it - the residential is now taken
try it again
did you buy both resi and commercial??
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what happens after feb if you not happy and want out,
are you signing up for 12mths.or can you pull out when you want to.??
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Looks like £25 per month for reidential, £50 for commercial. Who's actually got any work from it?
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Looks like £25 per month for reidential, £50 for commercial. Who's actually got any work from it?
It only started today,
The first place that potential customers go when searching for a reliable window cleaner is online.
I think that this is a superb idea,
Dean.
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Looks like £25 per month for reidential, £50 for commercial. Who's actually got any work from it?
also dont forget the £100 signing up fee.then £50 a month for commercial leads,so that works out at £700 a year.
am i right,
that alot of work to break even
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Hi
Sure i just seen the person who owns this site on here, asking about my comment.
But now the message as gone, contact me via email and i will forward you all the information of the pay pal case.
I will need to get this info of my brother but at present he is very ill in hospital.
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where do you get the £100 sign up fee from ?
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where do you get the £100 sign up fee from ?
information pack was sent to me last night and it says £100 sign up fee i will contact them and find out
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How do potential customers find the site? ???
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where do you get the £100 sign up fee from ?
information pack was sent to me last night and it says £100 sign up fee i will contact them and find out
i emailed them yesterday but got no reply yet, early days though
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hasn't this all been done before ??
didn't window washers had a network - then there was iwantawindowcleaner.com ...
personally i think it's very much on the expensive side
just a quick breakdown for you
Not including canvassing ( which brings in 75% of biz )
of the rest
only 10% of new biz for us comes though the internet
70% is via the van and being seen
10% recomendations
8% local parish mags etc..
2% leaflet drops
the above is just a breakdown for me
Darran
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where do you get the £100 sign up fee from ?
information pack was sent to me last night and it says £100 sign up fee i will contact them and find out
If you sign up during the discounted period the deposit fee is waived. When the subscription starts in feb.
Dean.
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i am going to give it a bash!
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I still make it, 25 quid deposit and £50 a month for commercial only in 2 post codes that is £625 a year
I would need to pick up a £50 monthly just to cover that in a very small area
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How are Nationwide driving traffic to their website?
There is no point paying to be part of a website that isn't being found by potential customers?
Andy
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I've just bought a res postcode,the invoice came back saying I've bought a domm postcode not happy
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How are Nationwide driving traffic to their website?
There is no point paying to be part of a website that isn't being found by potential customers?
Andy
there are paid links on my local searches
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I've just bought a res postcode,the invoice came back saying I've bought a domm postcode not happy
perhaps that means domestic...same thing as residential
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I'm out. ;)
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Cleancare sorry I've had a really long day,it came back commercial,domm
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What a whole load of sh ite. I can't believe some of you mug's are buying into this under thought out idea. A post code is a post code, small would describe it perfectly. In fact, where I live, 10 post code's would still be small.
The guy's who are selling, seem to be for me, unprofessional/shady in a marketing sense. I would not touch it.
This idea has way too many question marks for any savvy person to pay money into.
Really, it is a load of bollox.
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maybe im missing something here, but i cant be assed to research it enough.
so as they say on dragons den - im out!
i just cant see it working well enogh to be honest
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What a whole load of sh ite. I can't believe some of you mug's are buying into this under thought out idea. A post code is a post code, small would describe it perfectly. In fact, where I live, 10 post code's would still be small.
The guy's who are selling, seem to be for me, unprofessional in a marketing sense. I would not touch it.
This idea has way too many question marks for any savvy person to pay money into.
Really, it is a load of bollox.
couldn't agree more to be even remotely interested I would need to cover FK1 to 7 and EH 51 just to cover my licensed area
and it just doesn't add up money wise anyway
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Fool and their money are soon parted ::)
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What a whole load of sh ite. I can't believe some of you mug's are buying into this under thought out idea. A post code is a post code, small would describe it perfectly. In fact, where I live, 10 post code's would still be small.
The guy's who are selling, seem to be for me, unprofessional in a marketing sense. I would not touch it.
This idea has way too many question marks for any savvy person to pay money into.
Really, it is a load of bollox.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I put in Brighton East and West for residentual and commercial.
It would cost £150 per month or £1 800 a year.
That's a bit expensive for something that is as yet unproven.
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what a rip off!
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I no expert and would not say the brightest person around.
But all that have paid for this, put the invoice through your books an this way at least you will pay less tax.
The company that owns the website that all these people are paying money in to, Fair play to you your business idea is working for you, without promising anybody any work.
This is why i say i am not the brightest person (I wish i would have created a similar website, more profit than trying to produce water fed poles etc)..
Then only thing i would have done before accepting money from window cleaners, was to make sure in any search engine, that if somebody was looking for a window cleaner in a certain area. The web site i created will at least show on the first page of the search result, put do better than that get up the top of the search page, Once this was done, then i would accept payments from window cleaners.
I did type in Google "looking for a window cleaner in a certain area and postcode"
Did not view anymore than the first page of results even the side adds, could not find this company anywhere,
I did get yel.com come within the first 5, which cost me nothing to join.
But i am not stating this is a bad idea, nothing ventured-nothing gained.
But very good idea for a quick business and could work........I may not be to late after all, i have website templates
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Why pay someone else, when you can have your own website and get good results
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Am I missing something here? It's only 25 quid until February. I think it's only that as a tester so the site can prove you some results before paying the full fee.
If it's a disaster and I don't get anything in the next 3 months then I'll stop the subscription.
For a little punt it's worth a go
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my thoughts exactly mate
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hasn't this all been done before ??
didn't window washers had a network - then there was iwantawindowcleaner.com ...
personally i think it's very much on the expensive side
just a quick breakdown for you
Not including canvassing ( which brings in 75% of biz )
of the rest
only 10% of new biz for us comes though the internet
70% is via the van and being seen
10% recomendations
8% local parish mags etc..
2% leaflet drops
the above is just a breakdown for me
Darran
Window washers is similar but not the same. It's based on towns rather than postcodes - and it's a lot cheaper.
Iwantawindowcleaner.com was a different concept and business model - the main differences being that radio ads were the main vehicle for directing potential customers to the website and that you only paid for the work you actually got. Indeed I understand the initial reason for it was to get more work for the owner and to sell on any that was in the radio station's advertising area but not within Pryor's Window Cleaning's work catchment area.
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lets all not knock it until we have tried it shall we?
i dont part with my hard earned cash easily :P usually but if this works the potential customer base will be massive but lets wait and see, i have spent more on a round of drinks before so start knocking it if it DOESNT work, until then if you dont want to join up then shut up !!!
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He who pays - wins!
The rest will never know.
I assume the goal is to get the website ranking on page 1 of google - which will take time.
Many good business ideas take time to develop, be patient and give it chance to start working.
Good luck guys - but I hope you don't knock me off my spot on page 1 ;)
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Well,
One point that seems to have been missed is that a "free" subscription until February is worth nothing: it's the quietest period of the year for enquiries, so no-one's going to know if this is working before they start on the monthly subscription.
There are 2900 postcode districts (e.g. SO15) in the UK. Each area I looked at on their website had three districts, suggesting around 1,000 areas. £25 deposit and £25 a month for residential = £50 (that's just in the first month) . Commercial £25 deposit then £50 = £75. £125 per area. 1,000 of those areas and you're looking at £125,000 return for just signing people up, let alone the monthly income of £75,000.
So, keep people for a year and you have a turnover of £950K. That would either pay for a lot of advertising (making it a success for the people who have signed up) or a lot of holidays in the Bahamas (making it a success for the people who set up the site). Time will tell.
Vin
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didnt some one do this a on a smaller scale a few months ago, selling on the leads, how did that go?
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Whos going to get the cream :o
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I fancy a punt at this but every time I fill the form out and enter a town it just says the page could not be found??????
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well I have tryed sign up about nine times and just get page not found
think are give this site a miss
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Well,
One point that seems to have been missed is that a "free" subscription until February is worth nothing: it's the quietest period of the year for enquiries, so no-one's going to know if this is working before they start on the monthly subscription.
There are 2900 postcode districts (e.g. SO15) in the UK. Each area I looked at on their website had three districts, suggesting around 1,000 areas. £25 deposit and £25 a month for residential = £50 (that's just in the first month) . Commercial £25 deposit then £50 = £75. £125 per area. 1,000 of those areas and you're looking at £125,000 return for just signing people up, let alone the monthly income of £75,000.
So, keep people for a year and you have a turnover of £950K. That would either pay for a lot of advertising (making it a success for the people who have signed up) or a lot of holidays in the Bahamas (making it a success for the people who set up the site). Time will tell.
Vin
Exactly Vin, This is a win win for the set up site team. Some people though think this idea will work, and maybe it will, but I doubt that very much. All they are offering the many who sign up is hope, perhaps a trickle of work somewhere for a few of them. If I want a window cleaner I don't go national looking for one. With personal website's, names on van's, word of mouth, recommendation's, yell.com and just being seen working, there is too much competition for a web link like this to work very well.
Each to their own however.
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funny how we arent hearing anymore from the people who set it up. ;) :o
be nice if they would answer some of the questions :(
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Has anyone tried using the site to search their area?
I just had a look,.. the search results are pathetic to be honest -- a generic bit of text about "Cleaners in your area" and a quick enquiry form. The results do not display any company details, phone numbers, website links etc, which will instantly mean that 75% or more of potential customers who do a search will simply go back to google instead of filling out another form to contact you.
I could do the same type of website and charge 10% of that price,.. or I could do similar, but actually show proper results (and still be a lot cheaper). I'll even look into adding a postcode search to the Guild website if it would help bring in more enquiries!
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I'd like to know how much they are planning to spend on advertising, adwords etc before even considering it.
Also after the initial interest thread was posted, I was told that I would receive an email telling me when this site was going live. I havnt yet received this email so until I do, I'm going to assume that it isn't live yet.
Customer service is the key.
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my reservations are if someone has took the time to log on and begin searching for a window cleaner on google or whatever why are they going to fill in a form and then wait for a response, surely they would just go to the nearest window cleaners site for that area and give them a ring or whichever website they prefer the look of or maybe a few to get best possible price.
me personally thats what i would do say i was searching for a graphic designer or a joiner i wouldnt sign up to a nationwide website id look local
good luck with it charlie and huw, il take a punt when my new bankcard arrives
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Hi All
Firstly thanks for all the posative feedback
Secondly we have been instructed by cleanitup that we can not discuss matters on this site so if anyone does have any questions, please contact via the admin address
I can say that we have been caught out with how much interest and sign up we have had in 24 hours so truing to work through them all and pease bare with us
One thing I can say is we are In this to build a brand and not a quick few quid that some have mentioned
We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
Hope we can all work together in the future
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Hi All
Firstly thanks for all the posative feedback
Secondly we have been instructed by cleanitup that we can not discuss matters on this site so if anyone does have any questions, please contact via the admin address
I can say that we have been caught out with how much interest and sign up we have had in 24 hours so truing to work through them all and pease bare with us
One thing I can say is we are In this to build a brand and not a quick few quid that some have mentioned
We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
Hope we can all work together in the future
How can you build a brand with people who have & never will meet?
You will have zero control of who is representing the "brand"?
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We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
If you did indeed take around £950k in year one (as per maths above) then £950k - £100k = lots and lots of time in the Bahamas...
Vin
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to me it initially sounded a good idea especially withj the big boy/s who are behind this and i thought i would give it a go but to buy my areas it would cost a fortune - also what i have found is that most people who need a window cleaner search geographically online and use people from the google local business center that will always come top of any geographic search just under the pay per click adds , the organic listings that come below the google local business center are the best that any seo positioning can get you and if a web site has a web link and is in the local business center it will IMO always be viewed first , For my immediate area i am already top on local business center and top of the organic listings so i wont be investing and i am in the middle of the local business center and 2nd or 4rd or 4th in the organic listings for all my surrounding towns. In terms of investing my childrens inheritance in the vein of Dragons den i am also out!!
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I'll wait until they spend the £100k then think about joining. ;D
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£950k would only be if every area sold and was renewed at each interval. I think realistically it would be hard to go much above 1/3rd of this figure.
We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
If you did indeed take around £950k in year one (as per maths above) then £950k - £100k = lots and lots of time in the Bahamas...
Vin
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what also puts me off this is that they have split commercial and domestic to double their revenue great for them but for the punter ie us i think it is very mean. why not just sell you an area........ Rip off comes to mind - if you know nothing about web marketing then this is for you but if you have a website and know how to join the google local business center then steer well clear IMO.
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It's a clever idea really. The price is so low that wc's will give it a go. A few have already said on this thread "it's only a few quid" so we all pile in and the money is paid. Wish I had done it, nice easy way to make a few grand.
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I think its a good idea, but a little expensive for the interest it will generate .....personally for me , I like to target the customers I want, through canvassing or leafleting.....
one thing that has not been pointed out is that 1 lead can lead to several new jobs (on domestic )
when I paid for my yellow pages add afew years ago, on a few occasions I had calls from people in villages out of the way...... as they were isolated properties, I had to knock on their neighbours to make it worth wile.... and picked up many more jobs.....
so in one instance 2 leads led to £350 a month
regards
sparrowlegs
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It's a clever idea really. The price is so low that wc's will give it a go. A few have already said on this thread "it's only a few quid" so we all pile in and the money is paid. Wish I had done it, nice easy way to make a few grand.
I decided to invest my £25 differently.
I took my £25 went to the local take-away and got a couple of Madras's with all the trimmings. Went to the corner shop while it was cooking and got two Newcastle Browns for me and a Magners Cider for the missus. I even got some change!
A very pleasant evening for my £25 and much better value than chucking it away.
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It's a clever idea really. The price is so low that wc's will give it a go. A few have already said on this thread "it's only a few quid" so we all pile in and the money is paid. Wish I had done it, nice easy way to make a few grand.
I decided to invest my £25 differently.
I took my £25 went to the local take-away and got a couple of Madras's with all the trimmings. Went to the corner shop while it was cooking and got two Newcastle Browns for me and a Magners Cider for the missus. I even got some change!
A very pleasant evening for my £25 and much better value than chucking it away.
;D ;D
+1 to that!
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i had a look but when i typed my details in it kept saying page not found. anybody else have this problem as i wouldn't mind having a look at what's on offer
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the only thing i noticed that a lot of areas are already gone, have the big boys had there pick of the areas they want before the rest
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the only thing i noticed that a lot of areas are already gone, have the big boys had there pick of the areas they want before the rest
how can you tell whats gone
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It's a clever idea really. The price is so low that wc's will give it a go. A few have already said on this thread "it's only a few quid" so we all pile in and the money is paid. Wish I had done it, nice easy way to make a few grand.
I decided to invest my £25 differently.
I took my £25 went to the local take-away and got a couple of Madras's with all the trimmings. Went to the corner shop while it was cooking and got two Newcastle Browns for me and a Magners Cider for the missus. I even got some change!
A very pleasant evening for my £25 and much better value than chucking it away.
you live the high life gold
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when u ask to buy an area, it tells you it has gone or not
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what also puts me off this is that they have split commercial and domestic to double their revenue great for them but for the punter ie us i think it is very mean. why not just sell you an area........ Rip off comes to mind - if you know nothing about web marketing then this is for you but if you have a website and know how to join the google local business center then steer well clear IMO.
Some people who do commercial aren't interested in domestic and vice versa,
Dean
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Gold,
Never mix business with pleasure, especially if the booze and unhealthy food are involved. 8)
Dean
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£950k would only be if every area sold and was renewed at each interval. I think realistically it would be hard to go much above 1/3rd of this figure.
We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
If you did indeed take around £950k in year one (as per maths above) then £950k - £100k = lots and lots of time in the Bahamas...
Vin
OK then, assuming you're right, £320K - £100K is STILL a lot of time in the Bahamas.
£220k is even more than I earn in a month!
Vin
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£950k would only be if every area sold and was renewed at each interval. I think realistically it would be hard to go much above 1/3rd of this figure.
We aim to spend over 100k on online and local advirtising in year one
If you did indeed take around £950k in year one (as per maths above) then £950k - £100k = lots and lots of time in the Bahamas...
Vin
OK then, assuming you're right, £320K - £100K is STILL a lot of time in the Bahamas.
£220k is even more than I earn in a month!
Vin
Guys as stated can't go in to to much detail on here but just wanted to make a few comments
A business like this has lots of overheads namely a geek that keeps the site going at all times (not cheap), the development cost for the site that would shock you, admin, accounts, sales and such like
We did lots of market research and split the areas to commercial and residential due to feed back from 90% of the people we spoke to only doing one or the other or only looking for more work in one or another.
The way we plan to make a brand so that when people think I need a window cleaner they think of nationwide window cleaners, in many brands the hands on people never meet each other in my window cleaning company that is set up regionally staff members don't meet and know each other and pretty sure that if you work for a chain of shops you don't know everyone that works for that chain or brand
Guys Huw and I have spent a lot of time money and effort developing this idea and site we would not do that if we did not feel that it would not work one thing it does need to work though is window cleaners to support it as there is no point us running a national advertising at this point when we have not got the local guys in place to deal with the enquiries
Give it time and it will start to come together, the reason for the special offer is to trial things till we get it right and give a period so the site will prove its worth
As a business we (jvprice) spend 2k a month on SEO to stay at the top of google when the site is running at its peak you will have this for a max of £50 a month
Thanks for your time and what I can discuss on here I will,
Mods if any of this is not allowed please only delete my post as I don't want to effect the thread
Charlie
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hi charlie could you contact me please,ive bought 2 areas they have come through as residential ,i opted for comercial thanks dale.
info@dbcleaningservices.co.uk
www.dbcleaningservices.co.uk
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thanks for the quick response huw,if anyone needs to get hold of huw the number to contact him on is
07979504838 cheers dale
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What a whole load of sh ite. I can't believe some of you mug's are buying into this under thought out idea. A post code is a post code, small would describe it perfectly. In fact, where I live, 10 post code's would still be small.
The guy's who are selling, seem to be for me, unprofessional/shady in a marketing sense. I would not touch it.
This idea has way too many question marks for any savvy person to pay money into.
Really, it is a load of bollox.
this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I no expert and would not say the brightest person around.
But all that have paid for this, put the invoice through your books an this way at least you will pay less tax.
The company that owns the website that all these people are paying money in to, Fair play to you your business idea is working for you, without promising anybody any work.
This is why i say i am not the brightest person (I wish i would have created a similar website, more profit than trying to produce water fed poles etc)..
Then only thing i would have done before accepting money from window cleaners, was to make sure in any search engine, that if somebody was looking for a window cleaner in a certain area. The web site i created will at least show on the first page of the search result, put do better than that get up the top of the search page, Once this was done, then i would accept payments from window cleaners.
I did type in Google "looking for a window cleaner in a certain area and postcode"
Did not view anymore than the first page of results even the side adds, could not find this company anywhere,
I did get yel.com come within the first 5, which cost me nothing to join.
But i am not stating this is a bad idea, nothing ventured-nothing gained.
But very good idea for a quick business and could work........I may not be to late after all, i have website templates
Even know we all have ideas and different ways of approaching the way we work it.
J.V Price as introduced a new idea or redeveloped a old idea, if works could lead to more wealthy thing for the company.
Those who have paid or joined for the service on offer, could be glad they took the punt and get could results.
Those who never will say "o well" and continue making there business better.
I wasted money (£350) on a add mag called Quick Find, but not the company fault as they are well presented, but where these were delivered which was sort of the same postcode districts, nobody phone for my services for the 6 months period this was live for.
The good thing if this is done right, when humans are searching for this service, they come up very close to the top on the page.
If this works good, next thing will be plumbing ect.... sky the limit.
As from last night reading this, i can tell you i am in the process of creating a site very similar, but may never make it live, even thinking as doing it for all proceeds to go to charities (any way might be talking a lot of nonsense, but we all do sometimes)
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Hi look at this and when i brought my area, my brother tried it and he brought the same area..Email them but they never replied, now waiting on paypal open case.
So they sold us the same postcodes
Thanks pv price i have got your personal email about the above, but will need to speak to my brother, but as i said he is quite critical in hospital.
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cant see it working. i think there will be a lot of disappointed people in the near future.
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It's a clever idea really. The price is so low that wc's will give it a go. A few have already said on this thread "it's only a few quid" so we all pile in and the money is paid. Wish I had done it, nice easy way to make a few grand.
I decided to invest my £25 differently.
I took my £25 went to the local take-away and got a couple of Madras's with all the trimmings. Went to the corner shop while it was cooking and got two Newcastle Browns for me and a Magners Cider for the missus. I even got some change!
A very pleasant evening for my £25 and much better value than chucking it away.
Ahh... defo the best post of the day !
Seriously - while i don't really doubt the intentions of the 'organisers' of this scheme to create a 'brand new world' i can only see it benefiting the creators !
wow a geek costs a fortune ? - also it just so happens that you just already happen to have one ! 2K on SEO so your geek will now be paid by others so your own costs are now zero ?
while you have to cover your costs and want to make a profit - as do we all - surely during this 'test & trails' period if should be totally free - with those who signed up first getting an option come Feb/March to pay fro a 12 month run ?
I'm not knocking you or the idea - for you it's a great idea but i doubt for those who shell out hard earned cash they will see
any gain at all
if i search 'local window cleaner' you get
www. window cleaner directory
www.local window clears.co.uk
www.window cleaner finder
www.touch local
www. freeindex
www.upmystreet
you'll just be another anonymous name in the list..
if i google window cleaner norfolk - my little old web site comes in 6th it's actually 3rd as 3 in front are not window cleaners
and thats for a site that cost £150 over 2 years ago - costs me £2 pm hosting and what the f*** is SEO ??
search really local to me and i'm usually top.
so i think i'll pass and hope nobody loses too much money in this venture (organisers & customers)
Darran
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cant see it working. i think there will be a lot of disappointed people in the near future.
Disappointing either for those who never joined or those who did? Its a head or tail thing.
Once a vicar ask me to clean the church windows, so i did without giving a price.
Vicar said how much we owe and could i have a receipt, I replied no charge and if i have time i will do it again in the next 3 months.
Nothing was intended by doing this, but the people who use the church have made by business more comfortable.
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cant see it working. i think there will be a lot of disappointed people in the near future.
Disappointing either for those who never joined or those who did? Its a head or tail thing.
Once a vicar ask me to clean the church windows, so i did without giving a price.
Vicar said how much we owe and could i have a receipt, I replied no charge and if i have time i will do it again in the next 3 months.
Nothing was intended by doing this, but the people who use the church have made by business more comfortable.
what are you blabbing on about.
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Hi look at this and when i brought my area, my brother tried it and he brought the same area..Email them but they never replied, now waiting on paypal open case.
So they sold us the same postcodes
Thanks pv price i have got your personal email about the above, but will need to speak to my brother, but as i said he is quite critical in hospital.
Hey David,
I hope your brother is okay mate,
Dean.
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cant see it working. i think there will be a lot of disappointed people in the near future.
Disappointing either for those who never joined or those who did? Its a head or tail thing.
Once a vicar ask me to clean the church windows, so i did without giving a price.
Vicar said how much we owe and could i have a receipt, I replied no charge and if i have time i will do it again in the next 3 months.
Nothing was intended by doing this, but the people who use the church have made by business more comfortable.
what are you blabbing on about.
You have a point, so i will not babble on to explain
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As a business we (jvprice) spend 2k a month on SEO to stay at the top of google when the site is running at its peak you will have this for a max of £50 a month
I'd ask for a refund if they're telling you you're at the top of google.
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For the search term I have chosen COMMERCIAL WINDOW CLEANING I'm pretty sure I'm at the top of google and have been for at least a year
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after filling out 1st page the next page came up as
Page Not Found
Unfortunately the page you are looking for could not be found
have you got problems??????
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and dean?????????????
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It was a response to andyjm1's post Rich.
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i dont see what a big deal it is, every has a opinion, if those want to spend there money go do it, for those who dont then dont, dont worry about what other people are doing, worry about yourself.
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i dont see what a big deal it is, every has a opinion, if those want to spend there money go do it, for those who dont then dont, dont worry about what other people are doing, worry about yourself.
Totally agree.
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I remember when Lee Pryor started something similar to this, not exactly the same but similar enough.
I was probably it's biggest critic, at least openly I probably was. I would imagine that this scheme will be as equally useful to
other window-cleaners as that scheme was though will likely be around a little longer than Lees money-sink.
I'll give it a miss.
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Why don't you all put £25 - £50 pounds in a fund, and let one of the website designers on here do one for you. On a similar principle.
Roy :o
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2k a month on SEO????? Thats just crazy!!!
The best SEO results are organic & result from good, varied & constantly updated content,.... I reckon you're getting a bit ripped off there!
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For the search term I have chosen COMMERCIAL WINDOW CLEANING I'm pretty sure I'm at the top of google and have been for at least a year
Hi Charlie, not sure why but when I type in - Commercial Window Cleaning - on google I am now above you ;D
Well on my laptop anyway - but the main computer shows me in position 3 :P
Great idea - you beat me to it.
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Log out of google rhinoman before you do a search.
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Log out of google rhinoman before you do a search.
Do i show up anywhere on page 1 when you type in commercial window cleaning?
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Empty your cache also
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Empty your cache also
Sounds intersting - but now you have lost me - do I simply press Ctrl and f5?
Am I on page 1 when you look steve?
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Log out of google rhinoman before you do a search.
Do i show up anywhere on page 1 when you type in commercial window cleaning?
Yes but JV Price is above you.
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Log out of google rhinoman before you do a search.
Do i show up anywhere on page 1 when you type in commercial window cleaning?
Yes but JV Price is above you.
Well he has been for a long time so not to worry - I only started up in March 2010
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JV price is number 1 you are number 3.
Is this a game to get the number 1 position? If I see my seo man can I play? ;D
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JV price is number 1 you are number 3.
Is this a game to get the number 1 position? If I see my seo man can I play? ;D
Knowing you I bet you already have ;D
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;D
Actually I haven't. My site is getting a complete overhaul then I will be looking at what areas to target
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You are doing very well anyway, and your www site is really good.
Theres a lot of competition for 1st page as it is, no more is needed ;D
All have agreat day - I am gone!
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I like my site as it is.
Just getting the info, pics and sections changed.
I'm off to take my dog out! Adios!!
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after filling out 1st page the next page came up as
Page Not Found
Unfortunately the page you are looking for could not be found
have you got problems??????
Did you get this sorted Rich?
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I got to number one on google for quite a while. The trouble was that the search word was bghjkl or something equally ridiculous - which I had in writing so small and such a similar colour to the background you needed binoculars to see it. But at least I got to number one even if no-one else would have found it :)
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Hi All
Nationwide has just confirmed its stand at windex so hope to see all you guys to put a face to the name.
We will be doing a show special offer and one lucky person that signs up will get a year for free in our compertition.
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I have changed my mind and decided to give it a go £25 is not a lot , lets see what happens.......... ;D
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wise choice i signed up for 2 areas on friday,got email from nationwide on sunday with a lead,followed up on monday and gave em a quote,got job today will clean on friday £300 profit in it. ;D
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wise choice i signed up for 2 areas on friday,got email from nationwide on sunday with a lead,followed up on monday and gave em a quote,got job today will clean on friday £300 profit in it. ;D
I think we'd all be happy with that for a return,
Good effort Dale.
Dean.
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sorted ;)
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When people are looking for a window cleaner they type window cleaners in X area
I would not bother with this site, for what you will be paying I would get my own web site. If you need one doing ask Nat he did mine. When you type window cleaners in my area Im on the 1st page.
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When people are looking for a window cleaner they type window cleaners in X area
I would not bother with this site, for what you will be paying I would get my own web site. If you need one doing ask Nat he did mine. When you type window cleaners in my area Im on the 1st page.
I think you've got a bigger problem in trying to get blackpool promoted fella than worrying about window cleaning. ;D
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When people are looking for a window cleaner they type window cleaners in X area
I would not bother with this site, for what you will be paying I would get my own web site. If you need one doing ask Nat he did mine. When you type window cleaners in my area Im on the 1st page.
On a serious note, how regularly do you clean your work in blackpool?
I clean 2 jobs there fortnightly, I always leave them spotless but when I return 2 weeks later its as though they haven't seen a window cleaner for 2 years.
1 of the jobs is actually on bloomfield rd just down from blackpools ground.
Dean.
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wise choice i signed up for 2 areas on friday,got email from nationwide on sunday with a lead,followed up on monday and gave em a quote,got job today will clean on friday £300 profit in it. ;D
Dale,
Great news that the service is working for you
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Time will tell ......... though what i do keep thinking is the two companies behind this scheme are commercial window cleaners with a vast area - they are certainly still in business and certainly would be keen to get first dibs on any commercial lead in their area area/s so what would be left from decent commercial leads in Charlie and Huws areas which are presumably london and home counties and further and Huw west country? I know if i was in their position i would certainly take the cream of these leads.
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Dean
We do some hotels on the prom every week , and sometimes they look just as bad a couple of hours after. What days do you do the blackpool jobs as we clean just off bloomfield rd as well .
Oyston is happy for us to be a championship side .
Will you be using your 65ft pole
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Time will tell ......... though what i do keep thinking is the two companies behind this scheme are commercial window cleaners with a vast area - they are certainly still in business and certainly would be keen to get first dibs on any commercial lead in their area area/s so what would be left from decent commercial leads in Charlie and Huws areas which are presumably london and home counties and further and Huw west country? I know if i was in their position i would certainly take the cream of these leads.
The leads go straight through to the company that has that area, so we would have no control of the leads, rest assured we will be taking no leads from this site unless we have the areas as far as I'm aware huw has 1 area in Cardiff and I have hemel as we have been using them for development
As I've said we really are passionate about making this work and being different to all the other directories out there,
We have just had an enquirey for a whole county so things are looking really promising, over 75 areas have now been taken and 130 other enquiries.
We have been approached by the following a training provider, an insurance broker, equipment supplier, website builder and workwear clothing supplier all wanting to get involved in offering special deals for members, we will be putting a members benefit pack together in the near future.
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Its quite young and I suppose time will tell - hope it works out for everyone.
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Hi all
Just had a great commitment from one contractor with a purchase of 10 areas both commercial and residential
2 more areas gone while I have been typing this Bedford and York
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Hi
That was us that got York
Do we quote directly to the company or thru the site?
Thanks
Jonathan
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Hi
That was us that got York
Do we quote directly to the company or thru the site?
Thanks
Jonathan
When you have a quote request come through you deal with it the site just provides leads
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My site page has been done now, looks good, hope I get some leads from it
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Charlie, further to our telephone conversation, just to confirm purchase of the following areas,
PE6
PE25
PE24
PE23
PE22
PE21
PE20
PE13
PE12
PE11
PE10
NG31
LN4
LN10
Residential and commercial
I will arrange for info and images to set up our home pages
Will also look at remaining post codes in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas next week
As I need to get spend confirmed
Will be interested in Skegness and Grimsby areas
Love the idea and you have the backing of us and all concerned
Let's get some of the Nationwde retail contracts coming this way instead of the current set up with some companies milking the values and window cleaning companies actually cleaning the windows expected to clean for stupid rates
Ps as you can see Clean Safe are already high in listings for window cleaning in Lincolnshire for both residential and commercial searches which is down to our web team, I have been given the green light to instruct them to assist 100% with working with your guys to ensure maximise optermisation and pushing Nationwide, we aim also to work with other guys in key ares like Steve at Clear Magic and Jonathan Liddle Leeds
Charlie 100% behind this
Michael
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I sense a conspiracy! :)
In all seriousness though... Charlie - I've done a few searches on Google but the new website doesn't appear on any searches? When will it start to appear?
Andy
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The SEO was started a month ago but takes time, we will be starting a local ad words campaign for all the areas sold at the end of this month, then in going forward skys the limit, we have been in discussions with national papers, local magazines and also the uk's largest double glazing installation contractors
I know its hard to get the concept but what we don't want to do is sell the site to hard with a low no. Of window cleaners signed up as even now we have taken leads through the site but no window cleaners in the area to fulfill
We have taken an lead today for a national chain of shops so we are going to look into this and then have the members carry out the works
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Hi,
Charlie are you going to be doing national tv advertising?
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charlie would you say this benefits commercial work more than domestic?
cheers
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Hi,
Charlie are you going to be doing national tv advertising?
yes its going to be we buy any postcode .com
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ordered to see how it goes! :)
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i want to know if you get contracts that are all ready done by people on here ie dave morris, does most of cornwall, what happens if i buy newquay, u get a contracts that he does at moment, becasue he has got more vans does he get to keep his jobs, what happens to the job in areas where the post code isnt bought, do they go to one fo the big boys or the nearest person,
as to be honest the only thing i see happening here is the big boys are setting themselves up as a national window cleaning company, they will take the cream of national contracts they get and pass on what they cant/dont want to do,
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i want to know if you get contracts that are all ready done by people on here ie dave morris, does most of cornwall, what happens if i buy newquay, u get a contracts that he does at moment, becasue he has got more vans does he get to keep his jobs, what happens to the job in areas where the post code isnt bought, do they go to one fo the big boys or the nearest person,
as to be honest the only thing i see happening here is the big boys are setting themselves up as a national window cleaning company, they will take the cream of national contracts they get and pass on what they cant/dont want to do,
why would they be searching on the web for a w/c when they already have one ::)
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i am on about national contracts and these change every few years, if they really want to make it worth it, they need to be going after national contracts
because if i had a area, and found out that these had the contracts say for barclays and there was a barclays in my area and i wasnt doing the job but dave morris was, as he did them before, so they let him carry on i would think that it was a rip off, just to make money for the big boys, so that they could pretend to actually be a window cleaning company that covered the whole of the country
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i am on about national contracts and these change every few years, if they really want to make it worth it, they need to be going after national contracts
because if i had a area, and found out that these had the contracts say for barclays and there was a barclays in my area and i wasnt doing the job but dave morris was, as he did them before, so they let him carry on i would think that it was a rip off, just to make money for the big boys, so that they could pretend to actually be a window cleaning company that covered the whole of the country
I understand what your saying there and also everyone charges completely different.Im interested to see how it does work but can see a few flaws!
Yesterday i put a quote in for a big commercial and my quote was 3 times more than the other blokes,id rather lose it than hate doing the job as i have undercharged it.
I have took a commercial area that im trying till jan 31st,if its no good i will get rid!
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was this quote from there web site
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was this quote from there web site
which one?
the trial?
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the job you quoted yesterday
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the job you quoted yesterday
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no was from a call i got from my site!
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Hi,
Charlie are you going to be doing national tv advertising?
We are looking into it but as yet it is not looking likely due to the costs your talking millions
we are looking at national magazines and papers
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charlie would you say this benefits commercial work more than domestic?
cheers
I think it will suit both as its a great way for a local residential window cleaner to come across as part of a much bigger company that builds confidence in people and the same for the commercial as well as on national commercial contracts we will have a national team of guys to carry out the works as well as the commercial single site companies in the area.
the reason for the difference in prices in going forward for commercial and residential is that we have tried to price them so if you win one site on a monthly basis it will cover the subscription, so job 2 you will be making a profit out of the site.
As a commercial company we spend 3k a month on advertising and we do this in all types of media and monitor where our new work comes from its worth every penny month after month
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i am on about national contracts and these change every few years, if they really want to make it worth it, they need to be going after national contracts
because if i had a area, and found out that these had the contracts say for barclays and there was a barclays in my area and i wasnt doing the job but dave morris was, as he did them before, so they let him carry on i would think that it was a rip off, just to make money for the big boys, so that they could pretend to actually be a window cleaning company that covered the whole of the country
If nationwide window cleaners wins a national retail contract the stores would go to the company that has signed up to that area, if we have other stores in areas near that have not be sold we will work with the nearest person to see if we can cover them.
This is just one part of the way that you may win new work through the site.
If JVP or Seerclean win a retail contract it will be up to that company to decide who it uses to carry out the works but let me put it this way if i have a network of 1000+ window cleaners to call upon its a no brainer in my eyes and part of the reason for backing this idea to the point it is at.
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Charlie, further to our telephone conversation, just to confirm purchase of the following areas,
PE6
PE25
PE24
PE23
PE22
PE21
PE20
PE13
PE12
PE11
PE10
NG31
LN4
LN10
Residential and commercial
I will arrange for info and images to set up our home pages
Will also look at remaining post codes in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas next week
As I need to get spend confirmed
Will be interested in Skegness and Grimsby areas
Love the idea and you have the backing of us and all concerned
Let's get some of the Nationwde retail contracts coming this way instead of the current set up with some companies milking the values and window cleaning companies actually cleaning the windows expected to clean for stupid rates
Ps as you can see Clean Safe are already high in listings for window cleaning in Lincolnshire for both residential and commercial searches which is down to our web team, I have been given the green light to instruct them to assist 100% with working with your guys to ensure maximise optermisation and pushing Nationwide, we aim also to work with other guys in key ares like Steve at Clear Magic and Jonathan Liddle Leeds
Charlie 100% behind this
Michael
Thanks for the commitment guys
this is great we have two commercial companies that have signed up to large areas
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Hi All
Due to the volume of areas sold as of Monday the site will revert back to the normal price so if you thinking about it be quick, everyone that has signed up by 12pm sunday night will get the introductory offer till the end of Jan, from monday on you will have to pay a deposit and monthy subscription.
Adwords campaigns have started as well as social media campaigns
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how do i find out what areas near me are available
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how do i find out what areas near me are available
If you go on to the site and follow the sign up you can look for areas your intrested in if avalible it will let you purchace, if sold it will show as unavalible
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Im leaving this one fellas.
I clean in every area of st helens and we are expanding rounds daily. I also clean in a small area of warrington and widnes and commercials are lining up nicely but for those who have joined let me know if it goes well
Good luck
Danny
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I think you need to look at some areas a bit closer, just to buy say 4 miles in any direction from my house I would need to buy 5 areas, if I wanted to cover the area I actually cover locally it would be around 9 areas, that is travelling no further than 7 miles, I would be paying about 5k a year for an add on a website that only allows me to cover 7 miles
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right checked a bit closer
you have two postcodes linked
but I would still need to buy 6x areas that would be £3600 a year plus vat for a very small area
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a least you can buy a area, the area i wanted seems not to of been available from the very start
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a least you can buy a area, the area i wanted seems not to of been available from the very start
does dave have it?
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dont know,
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give me a postcode
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I think you need to look at some areas a bit closer, just to buy say 4 miles in any direction from my house I would need to buy 5 areas, if I wanted to cover the area I actually cover locally it would be around 9 areas, that is travelling no further than 7 miles, I would be paying about 5k a year for an add on a website that only allows me to cover 7 miles
And £5k a year would be the budget for 62,000 leaflets, or 280 or so customers if you convert between 0.4 and 0.5%. I'd be amazed if you got that many though their website.
And another thing, is a domestic postcode of website in Scotland worth the same as a domestic postcode in Surrey? I'd love to hear the argument that supports that logic.
Ah well, it might work and I might have to eat humble pie but I'll be surprised.
Vin
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I think you need to look at some areas a bit closer, just to buy say 4 miles in any direction from my house I would need to buy 5 areas, if I wanted to cover the area I actually cover locally it would be around 9 areas, that is travelling no further than 7 miles, I would be paying about 5k a year for an add on a website that only allows me to cover 7 miles
And £5k a year would be the budget for 62,000 leaflets, or 280 or so customers if you convert between 0.4 and 0.5%. I'd be amazed if you got that many though their website.
And another thing, is a domestic postcode of website in Scotland worth the same as a domestic postcode in Surrey? I'd love to hear the argument that supports that logic.
Ah well, it might work and I might have to eat humble pie but I'll be surprised.
Vin
take your point, but I should have pointed that price quoted was commercial cover, I can pick up domestic easy enough without paying, so the leaflet thing thing may not apply, but yes I could pay someone to canvass commercial for that type of money
I also agree a post code in certain areas must be cheaper than others, or more need grouped together, that was the point I was trying to make
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Hi All
Areas were put together by towns postcodes and population of the areas, some may not work and we will have to increase some areas, but on the flip side some guys may only want to cover a smaller area and then the oppasite issue,
Guys this is a work in progress but rest assured all comments are being noted,
We have just been informed that we have an advert in the new window cleaning warehous catalogue that is due out anytime, this we hope will increase the network, so we can start to work with members to fill the gaps,
Guys the prices are the prices and can't be discussed on here by myself
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Hi All
Areas were put together by towns postcodes and population of the areas, some may not work and we will have to increase some areas, but on the flip side some guys may only want to cover a smaller area and then the oppasite issue,
Guys this is a work in progress but rest assured all comments are being noted,
We have just been informed that we have an advert in the new window cleaning warehous catalogue that is due out anytime, this we hope will increase the network, so we can start to work with members to fill the gaps,
Guys the prices are the prices and can't be discussed on here by myself
glad you are taking note, I wasn't knocking you just pointing things out, all the best ;) I can imagine it will be nightmare covering the whole of the uk and not knowing the areas
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Hi All
Getting results alredy, page one for window cleaners redhill in just 4 days
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Intro offer finishes today so if you want to give it a go till the end of Jan sign up today
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well paid and havent heard a thing.whats going on.
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just paid and within minuites reciept of order from nationwide, dont know how long it takes for them to activate me onto the site though,
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Mine is now up and running, now we wait and see
http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/commercial/plymouth-east/
Cheers Guys ;)
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thanks for reply huw :-*
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Sorry I haven't been too interested in this but is it anything like CIU's Spick and Span site?
Only I registered with that and never got a peep same with some other site I did years ago something like Cleaning Resources. Both rubbish regarding gaining any work.
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I filled application form in etc and haven't heard anything back,did you recieve it? cheers
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I filled application form in etc and haven't heard anything back,did you recieve it? cheers
The team are working on your mini site now, you will have an email to you with a link once it is generated
All the best
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Hi all
We now have a twitter and facebook page please like and follow,
just search nationwide window cleaners
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I filled application form in etc and haven't heard anything back,did you recieve it? cheers
The team are working on your mini site now, you will have an email to you with a link once it is generated
All the best
thanks mate,much appreciated
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First mini site was Redhill Residential, not bad for a week
Type in to google “residential window cleaner redhill”, nationwide come up 1, 2 and 3
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must have a different google then as i searched window cleaner redhill and couldn't find you at all ???
Darran
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I did a search and it was page one.
It also so says 15,000 customers have used our services, I thought it had only been up and running a little over a week?
Roy
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must have a different google then as i searched window cleaner redhill and couldn't find you at all ???
Darran
that is because you never typed in residential, although I doubt any member of the public would either
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First mini site was Redhill Residential, not bad for a week
Type in to google residential window cleaner redhill, nationwide come up 1, 2 and 3
Very few if any, I would imagine, will type in "residential". Even fewer would click a sponsored link reading "nationwide" ;D
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Well I guess we will have to see, the 4 guys so far that have had leads come through seem happy with the service, working with google indexing pages all takes time, but they are great results for a week.
There are thousands of searches every month for residential window cleaners in ............. Through google.
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Its on here
http://www.google.com/search?client=ms-rim&hl=en&q=domestic%20window%20cleaner%20redhill&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&channel=browser
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And if we all keep searching for 'window cleaner......' and click the nationwide site just to have a look, then we are going to do the job of getting further up the google page for them! Although I have no interest I wish them well with the site but I also realise they are my competitors as I have a website too which I would like to remain as high as possible on the google page. I feel nationwide sites such as this can feed peoples fear of missing out, people can think that if they aren't part of it then it's going to have a detrimental effect on their business.
I don't actually believe they should be allowed on the forum in the message section. They should pay to advertise their site and services as I would be expected to do if I wanted to promote my business. Although some may be interested in their services, they are competitors of those who aren't. To those who aren't interested, let's not do their promoting for them.
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And if we all keep searching for 'window cleaner......' and click the nationwide site just to have a look, then we are going to do the job of getting further up the google page for them! Although I have no interest I wish them well with the site but I also realise they are my competitors as I have a website too which I would like to remain as high as possible on the google page. I feel nationwide sites such as this can feed peoples fear of missing out, people can think that if they aren't part of it then it's going to have a detrimental effect on their business.
I don't actually believe they should be allowed on the forum in the message section. They should pay to advertise their site and services as I would be expected to do if I wanted to promote my business. Although some may be interested in their services, they are competitors of those who aren't. To those who aren't interested, let's not do their promoting for them.
OK
Click this
http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/commercial/stoke-on-trent-north/
You know that you want to.
Dean
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Funny ;D
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Hi guys,I sent my application on 16/11/11, should I have heard anything from you by now as I havent?
www.cgwindowcleaning.co.uk (http://www.cgwindowcleaning.co.uk)
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And if we all keep searching for 'window cleaner......' and click the nationwide site just to have a look, then we are going to do the job of getting further up the google page for them!
Urban myth Im afraid mate. If that was what it took we'd all be clicking on internet links instead of worrying about SEO. There's over 80 criteria which influence ranking on a search engine page and clicking a link ain't one of them.
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I did a search and it was page one.
It also so says 15,000 customers have used our services, I thought it had only been up and running a little over a week?
Roy
So may I ask is the above in bold colourful marketing, as to me it looks very misleading. Now if it said JV price has had 15,000 customers using there service fair comment. But if you saying nationwide window cleaners have then for me how could I trust someone if I know they exaggerate in such away.
I hope you all do well as it is very as I personally like to see local window cleaners doing local jobs.
Roy
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has anyone who signed up had any kind of work from this yet.?
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I'm sure there will be plenty of work coming from it - more commercial in city's than for us country bumkins
it all comes down to what your willing to pay for 'yet another link' to window cleaning - if you only get 1
and it's 1k office block 4 times a year it's £50 pm well spent...
as with any scheme those who make anything/the most are the ones who run it.. (fair enough as well)
this seems to have generated lots more interest than the infamous project X - yet it costs more ? :-\
Darran
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Thanks Huw for explaining to me why, and the change of it to how many contractors is far better.
Thanks Roy
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Hi All
Sorry for the lack of replys been in Finland on business
Things are really looking up teams signing up everyday and sales leads being logged everyday
Welcome to all the new members
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Hi All
Just an update, the websites are being indexed now by google and we have many of the mini sites on the first page of google and have a few that our at the top of google in that town.
The main site is being updated all the time for both the customers and the contractors, with new features like finding you area by post dode and not just town name.
The website is now first on google for Nationwide window cleaners and second for nationwide window cleaning, this is great as people will remeber the name and when they search we will be there.
We have had over 200 teams sign up now 50% of them are for the long term and the other 50% on the trial but we hope people will stick with us in the new year and sign up for a year.
Due to the sign up we have changed the prices (lowered) as this needs a volume of guys to work and an amount of money and we didnt feel that the sign up would be so great in the early months.
We have confirmed our booking at windex so will be great to meet everyone and put a face to the name.
The one problem we are having is that we have sale leads coming through for areas we have not got covered a few of these we have passed on to the next nearest team but not always possible, anyone interested in an area drop us an email and if a lead comes through for that area we can show you that it works and get you on baoard...
All the best
Charlie and Huw
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"Window Cleaners Redhill" on goggle now brings up Nationwide Window Cleaners and Lee's site at the top of the organic listings
Lee we would love you to comment on this!!!
If you dont have a website, you now can, as a team on Nationwide window cleaners, and if you do make sure your above your compertition with a Nationwide window cleaners Mini Site.
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"Window Cleaners Redhill" on goggle now brings up Nationwide Window Cleaners and Lee's site at the top of the organic listings
Lee we would love you to comment on this!!!
If you dont have a website, you now can, as a team on Nationwide window cleaners, and if you do make sure your above your compertition with a Nationwide window cleaners Mini Site.
Thats great news Charlie, now what about the other 5 areas I bought!!!!??? Still no leads.
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lucky you lee, it says the towns i want dont exist
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"Window Cleaners Redhill" on goggle now brings up Nationwide Window Cleaners and Lee's site at the top of the organic listings
Lee we would love you to comment on this!!!
If you dont have a website, you now can, as a team on Nationwide window cleaners, and if you do make sure your above your compertition with a Nationwide window cleaners Mini Site.
Thats great news Charlie, now what about the other 5 areas I bought!!!!??? Still no leads.
They will come, it is really weird we have had some areas recive multiple enquiries and some are yet to recive any.
Below are your other results and they have been improving weekly
“window cleaners crawley” – Position 4
“window cleaners reigate” – Position 5
“window cleaners east grinstead” – Position 4
“window cleaners gatwick” – Position 2
“window cleaners oxted” – Position 4
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lucky you lee, it says the towns i want dont exist
Please try again and use a post code for the town as we have bolted smaller towns together and may have used a one of three towns names....
or contact admin@nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk and they will be able to help
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i havent had one lead yet either? ::)
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i havent had one lead yet either? ::)
Give it time we are only in month 2, what we have done in the first month is prove that the system works, if we can move the mini sites to the first page of google and then promote the national brand it will open up the brand and in turn all the members in their areas.....
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"Window Cleaners Redhill" on goggle now brings up Nationwide Window Cleaners and Lee's site at the top of the organic listings
Lee we would love you to comment on this!!!
If you dont have a website, you now can, as a team on Nationwide window cleaners, and if you do make sure your above your compertition with a Nationwide window cleaners Mini Site.
Thats great news Charlie, now what about the other 5 areas I bought!!!!??? Still no leads.
They will come, it is really weird we have had some areas recive multiple enquiries and some are yet to recive any.
Below are your other results and they have been improving weekly
“window cleaners crawley” – Position 4
“window cleaners reigate” – Position 5
“window cleaners east grinstead” – Position 4
“window cleaners gatwick” – Position 2
“window cleaners oxted” – Position 4
"Window cleaners stoke" is iin the top 5 and climbing too :)
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Im trying to word this reply very carefully.
Best way to get business is just ring direct really. Do a bit of poking around. Just need to be proactive rather than reactive
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Its not really advisable for people to chase domestic work by ringing around though catherine,
I get what you are saying with commercials but with domestic canvassing I'd stay clear of telesales.
That's just me though, that might not apply to matt bateman or dave morris :)
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Dean the data for domestics comes in at around £500 per 1K so its quite dear
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You could buy the data in but its so expensive
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Dean the data for domestics comes in at around £500 per 1K so its quite dear
Or you could spend £500 on 20,000 flyers getting printed and delivered....i know where my money would go.
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Dean the data for domestics comes in at around £500 per 1K so its quite dear
Or you could spend £500 on 20,000 flyers getting printed and delivered....i know where my money would go.
This sounds amazing value, where can I get this service ( the flyers)?
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£500 for a database of 1000 i think you are being robbed, we buy databases B2B, which come in at around £250 per 1000 and they will have a deal, try intelligient data. thanks
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guys and girls any questions about NWC post up on here as we keep seeming to hijack other threads....
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http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o584/NWC_UK/?action=view¤t=WelcomeToNationwideWindowCleanersMobile_Device_2.mp4
have a look
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hi m8
interested in poss 2 post codes , can u mail me and ill mail u back ;)
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hi m8
interested in poss 2 post codes , can u mail me and ill mail u back ;)
drop an email to admin@nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk or http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/signup/
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just brought wrexham 8) 8) 8)
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I don't get it,just bought from national????and make a pen pusher rich,FFS get out there do a decent job and the work will come to you.Do you really think the billy big times give two fcucks about you?Answer=No.
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just brought wrexham 8) 8) 8)
Hello neighbour ;)
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Has any1 actually made any money from this because i cant see it working
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We have contractors getting leads everyday now, we can't confirm that you will secure work as that is down to the contractor but we can put you infront of the clients, as with any form of advitising, this one just gives many chances for very little money.
Time will show
Has any1 actually made any money from this because i cant see it working
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when i type in gp window cleaning services google im 4 and 8 page 1 and i got it free qype. ;D
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Thanks to NWC I now have 2 links on the first page of google,
http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?q=stoke+on+trent+window+cleaners&pbx=1&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2-k0d0t0&fkt=832&fsdt=10895&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=<oken=65c4160d
Give it time and they will be on the first page of google for every area in the uk.
That alone speaks for it self, you cannot make people to chose your service but if you can get in their face with a professionally run brand then the chances that you will be chosen rise dramatically.
Dean.
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Hi
Someone needs to know you company name to find you and your still not top of the page, when someone searches for window cleaners in Manchester you don't show up at all that's what this service would do, if someone knew of you they would just call you, but when some searches for a service its the service and then the area........
when i type in gp window cleaning services google im 4 and 8 page 1 and i got it free qype. ;D
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Dean you do now have another link on the first page of google from NWC you actually have 3 when you type in "stoke on trent window cleaner , although which number do you think that is more prominent and customers will call - 1st on google local business center? Your site 2nd in the organic listings or NWC minisite 3rd in the organic listings?
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Can't believe so many mugs are just throwing their money away!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Excuse me if already covered. I didn't read ALL 12 pages. Yawn.
Here is the generic statement on site when put postcode in for my area.
Covering Market Drayton we offer Residential window cleaning services across the whole of the TF9 postcode area. We are experienced in carrying out Residential window cleaning to all types of buildings and above all our team of window cleaners work both politely and safely at all times with great attention to detail.
We use modern window cleaning equipment and can clean up to 60ft high from the safety of the ground using our waterfed pole system.
For more difficult buildings where powered access might be needed we are IPAF qualified so can work safely at height.
We are also experienced in using traditional window cleaning methods and employ this method on all our low level retail window cleaning.
For a FREE QUOTATION please contact us using the contact sheet on the left hand side of this page.
My question is this. I am NOT IPAF qualified, so if I bought tf9, who would you send to do any work in tf9 that required IPAF?
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Hi
This is just a holding page, once you buy the area we will custom build you a mini site, with your details and works that you carry out.
For example
If a lead did come through you can give us a call and see if we can help and if we could do the job you would get a 10% fee for the works or you would have to walk away from the works, just as now if someone asked you to do a job and you could not do it.
Excuse me if already covered. I didn't read ALL 12 pages. Yawn.
Here is the generic statement on site when put postcode in for my area.
Covering Market Drayton we offer Residential window cleaning services across the whole of the TF9 postcode area. We are experienced in carrying out Residential window cleaning to all types of buildings and above all our team of window cleaners work both politely and safely at all times with great attention to detail.
We use modern window cleaning equipment and can clean up to 60ft high from the safety of the ground using our waterfed pole system.
For more difficult buildings where powered access might be needed we are IPAF qualified so can work safely at height.
We are also experienced in using traditional window cleaning methods and employ this method on all our low level retail window cleaning.
For a FREE QUOTATION please contact us using the contact sheet on the left hand side of this page.
My question is this. I am NOT IPAF qualified, so if I bought tf9, who would you send to do any work in tf9 that required IPAF?
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Thanks for quick reply.
Better that way. Tho not for me at the moment. All the beat with it tho, everyone who is involved!
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Im already at the top of my page for window cleaners in my area on the internet,this is done by just searching window cleaner thatcham,and to be honest i hardly ever get work from the internet but its good for my clients to read up on me.
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ive just bought the postcode bu1 5hit ;D
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ive just bought the postcode bu1 5hit ;D
::) ------- ;D
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Ha ha
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Charlie I've just bought the commercial sector in my town today. Are you able to tell me how things progress from here please regarding production of mini-site and when it'll be online, SEO, payment for future months etc. Cheers. Matt
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What happens if two or more people buy postcodes for the same town or city? Take for example Birmingham, you are selling post codes categorised into the following areas:
Birmingham Central
Birmingham North
Birmingham East
Birmingham South
Birmingham West
So if five different people buy one postcode area each, then you are going to have five mini sites/window cleaners to promote on Google for the same key phrase of 'window cleaner birmingham'. And if you promote key phrases like 'window cleaner birmingham central', 'window cleaner birmingham north' etc then it will generate very few (if any) enquiries for the window cleaners concerned because potential customers will not be searching under those terms.
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Hi Matt
Welcome on board
Once you return your pack
The mini site will be live in a max of 14 days it will be SEO'd as its buit
Normaly it is on front page within a couple of weeks
With regards to future payment we will have a automatic payment system set up, I will let Huw confirm though
Charlie I've just bought the commercial sector in my town today. Are you able to tell me how things progress from here please regarding production of mini-site and when it'll be online, SEO, payment for future months etc. Cheers. Matt
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The system is built so it will come through to Birmingham and then to get further they must enter there post code that will take them to the right mini site and then in turn to the right contractor
What happens if two or more people buy postcodes for the same town or city? Take for example Birmingham, you are selling post codes categorised into the following areas:
Birmingham Central
Birmingham North
Birmingham East
Birmingham South
Birmingham West
So if five different people buy one postcode area each, then you are going to have five mini sites/window cleaners to promote on Google for the same key phrase of 'window cleaner birmingham'. And if you promote key phrases like 'window cleaner birmingham central', 'window cleaner birmingham north' etc then it will generate very few (if any) enquiries for the window cleaners concerned because potential customers will not be searching under those terms.
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Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the reply. I await my contracts ;D
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The system is built so it will come through to Birmingham and then to get further they must enter there post code that will take them to the right mini site and then in turn to the right contractor
What happens if two or more people buy postcodes for the same town or city? Take for example Birmingham, you are selling post codes categorised into the following areas:
Birmingham Central
Birmingham North
Birmingham East
Birmingham South
Birmingham West
So if five different people buy one postcode area each, then you are going to have five mini sites/window cleaners to promote on Google for the same key phrase of 'window cleaner birmingham'. And if you promote key phrases like 'window cleaner birmingham central', 'window cleaner birmingham north' etc then it will generate very few (if any) enquiries for the window cleaners concerned because potential customers will not be searching under those terms.
omg your good.
There must be over 70 post codes in brum from b1 city center to b79 Tamworth. So a mothly fee from all that are sold? Wish I had thought of the idea first.
Art
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They are sold in banks of post codes, the reason for breaking them up in the larger towns is to make sure that the area can be covered with quality and attention, also if larger jobs come in the local teams could team up together.
The system is built so it will come through to Birmingham and then to get further they must enter there post code that will take them to the right mini site and then in turn to the right contractor
What happens if two or more people buy postcodes for the same town or city? Take for example Birmingham, you are selling post codes categorised into the following areas:
Birmingham Central
Birmingham North
Birmingham East
Birmingham South
Birmingham West
So if five different people buy one postcode area each, then you are going to have five mini sites/window cleaners to promote on Google for the same key phrase of 'window cleaner birmingham'. And if you promote key phrases like 'window cleaner birmingham central', 'window cleaner birmingham north' etc then it will generate very few (if any) enquiries for the window cleaners concerned because potential customers will not be searching under those terms.
omg your good.
There must be over 70 post codes in brum from b1 city center to b79 Tamworth. So a mothly fee from all that are sold? Wish I had thought of the idea first.
Art
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What is and how much is a bank of post codes
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What is and how much is a bank of post codes
All shown on the login side of the site
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What is and how much is a bank of post codes
All shown on the login side of the site
Hey I'm not that bothered to look but good luck with it anyway.
Art
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I think each mini site should have its own email address e.g YOURAREA@nationwide. This can be set to be received by The owners of nationwide for stats and by mini site owner. This will relieve any conflict of interest as the mini site owner doesn't receive their emails through the 3rd party.
Just my 2p worth
Alan
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I think each mini site should have its own email address e.g YOURAREA@nationwide. This can be set to be received by The owners of nationwide for stats and by mini site owner. This will relieve any conflict of interest as the mini site owner doesn't receive their emails through the 3rd party.
Just my 2p worth
Alan
I totally agree I did this myself and works well, very easy to install
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Hi AJ & Window Washers,
I will try and explain what happens at the moment....but I was out snow clearing all last night so it may not make sense.
Basically any email enquiries go straight to the members direct email address e.g. info@abcdecleaning.co.uk
although a record is left on our admin system where we can search the database for area/enquiry type to find out how many enquiries an area has had if somebody asks.
We were thinking of giving everyone an area@nationwide email address but I can see some problems occuring possibly. So for now we will proceed as we are at least.
I think you are worrying about us "intercepting" enquiries and quoting ourselves for the work. If this happenned we would be shooting ourselves in the foot and I would expect all members to quickly leave the website ASAP.
I'm surprised about the amount of feedback, both positive and negative, the site has caused. In it's simplest form it is a "yell.com" for just window cleaners, giving guys a bit of extra marketing on the internet if they fancy it.
If we prove successful and are still going in a year or so with a strong network of members across the UK then we would be in a great position to pursue national retail contracts as an added benefit.
In the meantime we will strive to get our members mini-sites to the top of Google for their area and promote the window cleaning directory as a whole.
As a collective I think we could achieve something, but that waits to be proved. Everyone talks about the smaller window cleaners joining together to beat the "big boys" on here every week and we've just built something which could possibly do this if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
Huw
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Hi Huw,
I am not saying that there WILL be a conflict of interest, but for people that are intending on signing up that have not had the benefit of the posts and replies on this forum, this thought cold be at the back of their mind.
For what its worth, I think the idea of what you are trying achieve is a good one and could very well succeed.
Alan
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Huw, can you e-mail me your mobile or direct e-mail please
Ta
Roy
info@phoenixecs.co.uk
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I would like to welcome Pure Hydro Cleaners to the network with the purchase of all of Birmingham
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err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
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err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
no harm in being on top twice 8)
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Hi All
we have had are best day so far with sign ups to join the network must be down to the weather.
We have 16 new contractors in the network covering 23 areas, these have all been commercial areas, lots of contractors looking at other areas as well,
we have had our first area that someone has been disappointed about that was Basingstoke Commercial that sold a couple of days ago, someone emailed yesterday looking to buy that area but we had to explain the areas can only be sold once.
We also have managed to get 3 contractors mini sites in the top 5 on page one of google in under 5 days....
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err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
no harm in being on top twice 8)
But one cost you nothing
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how does paying or building a website yourself, then paying for ways to get it on the first page of google cost nothing?
err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
no harm in being on top twice 8)
But one cost you nothing
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Click here to try it now.
In collaboration with SimpleSite Cleanitup offers you the opportunity to try making a
great looking company website yourself. You don’t need any technical or programming skills.
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how does paying or building a website yourself, then paying for ways to get it on the first page of google cost nothing?
err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
no harm in being on top twice 8)
But one cost you nothing
the site i had before the one i have now cost me about £30 a year hosting and i designed it myself in a few hours ;D ;D
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we have had our first area that someone has been disappointed about that was Basingstoke Commercial that sold a couple of days ago, someone emailed yesterday looking to buy that area but we had to explain the areas can only be sold once.
Oh dear what a shame, never mind ;D
I got a call off the fella looking to buy it, he swore at me, I was heartily offended ;D
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My website costs about £7.00 a month. i did it myself. Its number one on google. I have still bought a mini-site on NWC. Ive been in this game 14 years and anyone who thinks it isnt a numbers game is disillusioned.
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err ok but i see that william at pure hydro is already top of the organic listings for Birmingham ???
no harm in being on top twice 8)
But one cost you nothing
I have a seo and web company, they made my website and do the seo on it, for this I pay a yearly hosting fee and monthly seo charge.
this is just like advertising, you don't just place a single advert in one magazine and sit back and wait for the phone to ring, you need to place adverts all over the place, the more visable you are the more your phone will ring.
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we have had our first area that someone has been disappointed about that was Basingstoke Commercial that sold a couple of days ago, someone emailed yesterday looking to buy that area but we had to explain the areas can only be sold once.
Oh dear what a shame, never mind ;D
I got a call off the fella looking to buy it, he swore at me, I was heartily offended ;D
is hes name steve by chance
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Yes, but I call him f*g**t ;D
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How are you supposed to see what areas are taken?? ???
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How are you supposed to see what areas are taken?? ???
its gone ;)
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within 3 days i am now top on my listings. come on you ringing telephone......
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Hi huw could you please add my contact numbers to my mini site,I've covered 4 big areas and I have not had a call yet thank you dale. ;)
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Hi Dale,
Yeah no probs.
We are just waiting on the web guys to finish adding in a new field for telephone numbers for everyone who has linked to the site. It should have been done last week.
In the meantime i'll add your number into your address.
Didn't I pass you an enquiry in the first week? Or am I getting confused?
Cheers,
Huw
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Hi Dale,
Yeah no probs.
We are just waiting on the web guys to finish adding in a new field for telephone numbers for everyone who has linked to the site. It should have been done last week.
In the meantime i'll add your number into your address.
Didn't I pass you an enquiry in the first week? Or am I getting confused?
Cheers,
Huw
what if i'm unable to link to your site does that mean i cant have telephone numbers on mine??
thanks
paul
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Hello,
Not at all. But every little bit helps.
Cheers,
Huw
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Hello,
Not at all. But every little bit helps.
Cheers,
Huw
Great thanks
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Great News
Well we seem to be getting great results now with the mini sites and the main site is gaining speed every day for window cleaners and window cleaning, all is on plan to cover all areas by JUNE!!!
within 3 days i am now top on my listings. come on you ringing telephone......
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Huw, hi there, any idea when my mini-site will be going live, Basingstoke commercial. Cheers.
Matt.
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Hi Matt,
Yours is up and running now.
I'm struggling to keep up with building them and have 34 mini-sites left to build this week...so apologies to anyone who is still waiting for theirs.
Also, all direct telephone numbers are now on everyones mini-sites.
Thanks to everyone who has linked to the site...we are making real leaps and bounds in the google rankings now.
Cheers,
Huw
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Thanks Huw, I see that now. Also got the test e-mail.
Cheers Matt
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I have just signed up for my area too, I'm interested to l know what happens next will some one contact me to discuss this mini site?
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Hi Chris,
You should have had the application form emailed to you automatically by now?
Just fill it in and email it back to us, then I will add your mini-site to the list for me to build...thanks for coming on board.
All the best,
Huw
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Hi Chris,
You should have had the application form emailed to you automatically by now?
Just fill it in and email it back to us, then I will add your mini-site to the list for me to build...thanks for coming on board.
All the best,
Huw
huw did you get mail form me ???
I will harass you ;)
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Hi Ian,
Yes, I got it just as I was on my way out gritting earlier. I've reserved those areas for you, will email you in the morning.
Cheers,
Huw
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As said on the other thread my mini site is on page 1 of google,
Google commercial window cleaners stoke on trent
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Hi Chris
Welcome to the network, we have had 4 new areas purchased today so the system is working and the network is growing, the marketing. process for the brand is starting to be put into place, within the next few months the mini sites will be a bonus as the brand will become a household name.
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Hi Huw
You haven't forgotten me :P the silence is painful :o
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Hi William,
No I haven't, your areas have all been reserved. I'm just trying to find the time to set yours up as it's going to work a bit differently to most of the others due to the size of the area you are covering.
What with South Wales being so cold I've been out gritting every night and managed to shift over 40 tons of salt this week, which is great, but hasn't left me much time to keep up with building all the mini-sites.
Cheers,
Huw
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Hi William,
No I haven't, your areas have all been reserved. I'm just trying to find the time to set yours up as it's going to work a bit differently to most of the others due to the size of the area you are covering.
What with South Wales being so cold I've been out gritting every night and managed to shift over 40 tons of salt this week, which is great, but hasn't left me much time to keep up with building all the mini-sites.
Cheers,
Huw
Cold WHAT Cold ;D
if you have any spare salt and I give you the list of customers I have to do friday, any chance that you could drop some along the route ;D 8)
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Hi,
Yeah no problem, I'll bring it up in the Bobcat in case there's any snow on the way.
Cheers,
Huw
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So who's setting up a 'Nationwide Pressure Washing' site? Or 'Nationwide Roof Cleaning'
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The wheels are in motion!!
So who's setting up a 'Nationwide Pressure Washing' site? Or 'Nationwide Roof Cleaning'
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Nationwide pressure washing? -Huw,keep me informed!!! You get my email by the way??
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Hi Roy,
Yes, I received your email reference changes to the mini-site and will get them sorted.
We have thought about a site for pressure washing, roof cleaning, plumbers etc etc but window cleaning is what we know best. Also the beauty with window cleaning is that it's a repeat business so it would only take just one or two jobs to cover the subscrition costs over the year.
Plus we want to put all our efforts into making NWC successful for everyone first.
Cheers,
Huw
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Sorry assume this question has been asked, apologise for asking it again.
But how do you ie Nationwide window cleaners vet the guys who have taken out areas with yourselves ?
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I see my mini site is flying up the ranks i'm in danger of knocking my own site down a bit :P
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Well i payed the deposit two weeks ago was told they would contact me, have not heard a thing, i even sent a email. >:(
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Hi Woody
Your mini site is being worked on at the moment the delay was down to the fact you payed by e cheque and that we have had a huge surge in sign ups between you reserving your area and the deposit clearing, we work on a first come first serve system.
Well i payed the deposit two weeks ago was told they would contact me, have not heard a thing, i even sent a email. >:(
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Assume there are no checks ??? ???
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But how do you ie Nationwide window cleaners vet the guys who have taken out areas with yourselves ?
Pay your cash and no questions asked?
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But how do you ie Nationwide window cleaners vet the guys who have taken out areas with yourselves ?
Pay your cash and no questions asked?
Really or is that a windup ?
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Ive been knocked off the top slot ;D
http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=COMMERCIAL+WINDOW+CLEANERS+BASINGSTOKE&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=8hA4T8ypKOrG0QWf-_W7Ag
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Hows that then i still see you at the top Matt
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Assume there are no checks ??? ???
I would believe that they would ask for a crb check and valid public liabilty insurance and employers liabilty insurance policies along with proof of all relevant and stated professional and training qualifications....otherwise they could just be letting anyone join a nationwide cleaning organisation who is pretending to be something they aren't..... ;D
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Oh that's good ;D
Here my nationwide site is top but my normal site is second whereas it was number one up until an hour or so ago.
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Matt,
Remember that google's a bit clever, so you get a different result based on where you live (and I believe, other searches you have made).
So, when I look from here in Southampton, you're top and Nationwide is ninth.
Vin
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ok cheers mate can i get residential aswell
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I think as long as you appear on the 1st page you stand a pretty good chance
of getting that all important call, I appear several times on the first page
Some through google maps some through window cleaner finder and also others
Like yell, Thompson local, etc altogether I'm to be found about 6 or 7 times on the 1st page so all good
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are their still alot of areas not covered ??? ???
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Matt,
Remember that google's a bit clever, so you get a different result based on where you live (and I believe, other searches you have made).
So, when I look from here in Southampton, you're top and Nationwide is ninth.
Vin
Yes you're right Vin it does depend where you are.
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But how do you ie Nationwide window cleaners vet the guys who have taken out areas with yourselves ?
Pay your cash and no questions asked?
We ask for valid insurance and will only show qualifications that you can prove to us, we have turned down at least 10 due to no insurace or not the correct insurance
Really or is that a windup ?
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Oh that's good ;D
Here my nationwide site is top but my normal site is second whereas it was number one up until an hour or so ago.
Matt it will settel down its because google is looking at our site all the time due to how much new content is loaded up everyday
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ok cheers mate can i get residential aswell
Yer no problem I will sort it now and huw will be intouch
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But how do you ie Nationwide window cleaners vet the guys who have taken out areas with yourselves ?
Pay your cash and no questions asked?
We ask for valid insurance and will only show qualifications that you can prove to us, we have turned down at least 10 due to no insurace or not the correct insurance
Really or is that a windup ?
So all you ask for is valid insurance ? Once you have supplied valid insurance you can be approved for Nationwide window cleaners ?
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
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Matt
You will need to log out of google, then you will get a true picture.
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
So at one end of the spectrum you could have a 'guy on a bike with a bucket no experience' at the other end a 'company, fully accredited, HS compliant years of experience' - All of which are representing your associative 'Brand'.
Your site states 'Approved cleaners' - this suggests far more to the 'customer' than you offer.
How is this improving your industry ???
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any chance of an email with all the details to it prices areas what you get ? whats a mini site ? sorry if i soand stupid but i honestly dont have a clue but i am interested deanlawrence89@hotmail.co.uk
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
So at one end of the spectrum you could have a 'guy on a bike with a bucket no experience' at the other end a 'company, fully accredited, HS compliant years of experience' - All of which are representing your associative 'Brand'.
Your site states 'Approved cleaners' - this suggests far more to the 'customer' than you offer.
How is this improving your industry ???
they aren't trying to improve the industry. they are trying to make money :o
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
So at one end of the spectrum you could have a 'guy on a bike with a bucket no experience' at the other end a 'company, fully accredited, HS compliant years of experience' - All of which are representing your associative 'Brand'.
Your site states 'Approved cleaners' - this suggests far more to the 'customer' than you offer.
How is this improving your industry ???
Its very unlikely that a guy on a bike with a bucket and no experience will be signing up for this type of set-up?
He would be far better investing his money in a vehicle first.
Don't you agree??
Now we are on the subject of stupid scenario's though, what are NWC doing to stop any aliens who are living in our neighbourhoods trying to infiltrate the human race by pretending to be window cleaners and taking over the planet??
I'm worried sick about it if I'm honest.
Dean
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
So at one end of the spectrum you could have a 'guy on a bike with a bucket no experience' at the other end a 'company, fully accredited, HS compliant years of experience' - All of which are representing your associative 'Brand'.
Your site states 'Approved cleaners' - this suggests far more to the 'customer' than you offer.
How is this improving your industry ???
Its very unlikely that a guy on a bike with a bucket and no experience will be signing up for this type of set-up?
He would be far better investing his money in a vehicle first.
Don't you agree??
Now we are on the subject of stupid scenario's though, what are NWC doing to stop any aliens who are living in our neighbourhoods trying to infiltrate the human race by pretending to be window cleaners and taking over the planet??
I'm worried sick about it if I'm honest.
Dean
that must be very distressing for you dean ;D ;D
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At this stage yes
We will the work with the members to improve on this but it is the only thing we need currently
So at one end of the spectrum you could have a 'guy on a bike with a bucket no experience' at the other end a 'company, fully accredited, HS compliant years of experience' - All of which are representing your associative 'Brand'.
Your site states 'Approved cleaners' - this suggests far more to the 'customer' than you offer.
How is this improving your industry ???
Its very unlikely that a guy on a bike with a bucket and no experience will be signing up for this type of set-up?
He would be far better investing his money in a vehicle first.
Don't you agree??
Now we are on the subject of stupid scenario's though, what are NWC doing to stop any aliens who are living in our neighbourhoods trying to infiltrate the human race by pretending to be window cleaners and taking over the planet??
I'm worried sick about it if I'm honest.
Dean
Thats make it simple for you ;D
taken from site -
Our window cleaning teams are highly trained and experienced in all
forms of professional window cleaning.
Our approved network of window cleaners are vetted by us to ensure we have only the best window
cleaners in every town in the UK, providing national coverage with local service
We take Health & Safety very seriously
- And all they ask for is insurance - Do you not see a problem?
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I agree with Mike,I think the 'Approved' is misleading
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I think the Wickes D.I.Y. ad on the local radio is misleading, I just accept that some things in life ain't perfect ;0)
Thats generally what advertising is, in reality, you 'big' yourself up, word of mouth isn't necessarily enough to get the kind of work you'd either like to improve on or aspire to. You may not lie but you put yourself across in a positive manner. Isn't that generaly how things are in this world? Ive read some of the stuff on your website Mike about how much better your company is, in your opinion, than other companies, about what a wonderful job you do and how thorough and professional you are. Thats bigging yourself up mate, in effect it's advertising but I bet all your customers dont think that highly of you; because at some in the past you've probably not done quite as good a job as you'd like to make out you have.
C'est la vie.
Oh, as an aside, Im sure they'll get round to your industry at some time in the future, hey why dont you go ahead and do it yourself, you might even improve the industry in the process ;)
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Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
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Hi Mike
can you give us some suggestions that you would feel would cover us giving them the status of Approved and we will look into it.
As I run a shop selling window cleaning tools I can assure you that most residential window cleaners dont have insurance, this is a must for members to join this advertising site.
We will look into anyones ideas and thoughts though.
You have to start somewhere!!!!!!
Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
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All window cleaners are approved by Dave.
If he dont like the look of them they aint getting in.
Unless they slip me £50 under the table of course ;D
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All window cleaners are approved by Dave.
If he dont like the look of them they aint getting in.
Unless they slip me £50 under the table of course ;D
Sounds cheap ;D
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The site is run by yourselves so why not insist that your internal stds are applied OR
Why not simply apply what you state on your site ?
Our window cleaning teams are highly trained and experienced in all
forms of professional window cleaning.
Insist on formal training + min experience
We take Health & Safety very seriously
Some form of accreditation - SAFEcontractor or Chas
All operators conform to Working at heights regs?
Look I only posted on here as I noticed you may move into other sections, until that happens I will gracefully bow out :P :P
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Hi Mike
can you give us some suggestions that you would feel would cover us giving them the status of Approved and we will look into it.
As I run a shop selling window cleaning tools I can assure you that most residential window cleaners dont have insurance, this is a must for members to join this advertising site.
We will look into anyones ideas and thoughts though.
You have to start somewhere!!!!!!
Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
So what makes the boys without public liability insurance any less a professional window cleaner than the lot you are letting join the club?...As far as i know PL insurance is not a legal requirement to trade in this country as a wc and nor is it likely to become one.
And before anyone suggests that those without cover are cowboys/dole bludgers or just out and out low lifes then i would like them to show me some evidence that those who trade without cover are worse than those who pay for what is sometimes meaningless cover,i mean real evidence,maybe even government backed surveys...not just wc shop hearsay.
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Hi Mike
can you give us some suggestions that you would feel would cover us giving them the status of Approved and we will look into it.
As I run a shop selling window cleaning tools I can assure you that most residential window cleaners dont have insurance, this is a must for members to join this advertising site.
We will look into anyones ideas and thoughts though.
You have to start somewhere!!!!!!
Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
So what makes the boys without public liability insurance any less a professional window cleaner than the lot you are letting join the club?...As far as i know PL insurance is not a legal requirement to trade in this country as a wc and nor is it likely to become one.
And before anyone suggests that those without cover are cowboys/dole bludgers or just out and out low lifes then i would like them to show me some evidence that those who trade without cover are worse than those who pay for what is sometimes meaningless cover,i mean real evidence,maybe even government backed surveys...not just wc shop hearsay.
Any sole trader/ one man band guy who has no PL is a cowboy.
The cost is less than £100 for the year. Can you seriously justify not having it?
No PL = No NWC membership.
Dean
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Hi Mike
can you give us some suggestions that you would feel would cover us giving them the status of Approved and we will look into it.
As I run a shop selling window cleaning tools I can assure you that most residential window cleaners dont have insurance, this is a must for members to join this advertising site.
We will look into anyones ideas and thoughts though.
You have to start somewhere!!!!!!
Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
So what makes the boys without public liability insurance any less a professional window cleaner than the lot you are letting join the club?...As far as i know PL insurance is not a legal requirement to trade in this country as a wc and nor is it likely to become one.
And before anyone suggests that those without cover are cowboys/dole bludgers or just out and out low lifes then i would like them to show me some evidence that those who trade without cover are worse than those who pay for what is sometimes meaningless cover,i mean real evidence,maybe even government backed surveys...not just wc shop hearsay.
Any sole trader/ one man band guy who has no PL is a cowboy.
The cost is less than £100 for the year. Can you seriously justify not having it?
No PL = No NWC membership.
Dean
You see i knew that would happen... ;D
I did not say i didn't have it,as it happens it is a requirement for one job that i do,but if i didn't do that job then i doubt if i would bother to renew...
Now tell me as it is not a legal requirement what authority do you posses to say that those without are cowboys,it doesn't matter about the cost...just tell me why you are an authority on calling people cowboys who are without pl cover?
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What would be the scenario then if whilst at work you were the reason behind a serious accident that caused either a significant amount of financial hardship to someone and/or affected a customer with physical consequences where they would be entitled to compensation and you wern't insured?
I used to operate without PL Insurance and consider that I was a cowboy in them thar daze.
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The cost is less than £100 for the year.
no it isnt
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Hi Mike
can you give us some suggestions that you would feel would cover us giving them the status of Approved and we will look into it.
As I run a shop selling window cleaning tools I can assure you that most residential window cleaners dont have insurance, this is a must for members to join this advertising site.
We will look into anyones ideas and thoughts though.
You have to start somewhere!!!!!!
Thanks for looking at site ;D There is a massive difference between advertising and lying.
Look, these guys are established just amazed at the lack of basic checks or standards in order to join, just expected more.
Your last point is the reason for my posts.
So what makes the boys without public liability insurance any less a professional window cleaner than the lot you are letting join the club?...As far as i know PL insurance is not a legal requirement to trade in this country as a wc and nor is it likely to become one.
And before anyone suggests that those without cover are cowboys/dole bludgers or just out and out low lifes then i would like them to show me some evidence that those who trade without cover are worse than those who pay for what is sometimes meaningless cover,i mean real evidence,maybe even government backed surveys...not just wc shop hearsay.
Any sole trader/ one man band guy who has no PL is a cowboy.
The cost is less than £100 for the year. Can you seriously justify not having it?
No PL = No NWC membership.
Dean
You see i knew that would happen... ;D
I did not say i didn't have it,as it happens it is a requirement for one job that i do,but if i didn't do that job then i doubt if i would bother to renew...
Now tell me as it is not a legal requirement what authority do you posses to say that those without are cowboys,it doesn't matter about the cost...just tell me why you are an authority on calling people cowboys who are without pl cover?
You are on a wind up aren't you?? ;D
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The cost is less than £100 for the year.
no it isnt
Go on then how much is it?? £110?
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What would be the scenario then if whilst at work you were the reason behind a serious accident that caused either a significant amount of financial hardship to someone and/or affected a customer with physical consequences where they would be entitled to compensation and you wern't insured?
I used to operate without PL Insurance and consider that I was a cowboy in them thar daze.
As i said...give me some case scenarios of this happening,give me some hard facts reporting that these accidents happen to so many window cleaners that it will be necessary for the government to at last pass legislation to make having pl cover as a legal trading requirement...until that happens then nobody has the right or can prove the facts that those who dont carry pl cover are cowboys in this trade.
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Im sure accidents do happen where the window cleaner isn't insured, and the customer or member of public is a victim of that. Unfortunately what is likely to happen, as you havent answered the question I'll answer it for you, is the victim will have to suffer a loss of some description or another at the expense of the uninsured cleaner. Im sure you're just playing devils advocate, it's pretty obvious really, only a total idiot would seriously try to justify no insurance, and Im sure youre not that, like I say I doubt you seriously view this as a reasonable point of view but are probably just bored.
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So what makes the boys without public liability insurance any less a professional window cleaner than the lot you are letting join the club?...As far as i know PL insurance is not a legal requirement to trade in this country as a wc and nor is it likely to become one.
And before anyone suggests that those without cover are cowboys/dole bludgers or just out and out low lifes then i would like them to show me some evidence that those who trade without cover are worse than those who pay for what is sometimes meaningless cover,i mean real evidence,maybe even government backed surveys...not just wc shop hearsay.
your basing this on the premiss that this is a club - which is not, it's a first come first pays web index site so pretty much as long as you have PL neither JV Price or Seerclean give a flying **** whether you can do the job - only that you can pay them - otherwise places would be by invite with those invited providing proof of working abilities and letter of reccomendation from clients.
Darran
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What would be the scenario then if whilst at work you were the reason behind a serious accident that caused either a significant amount of financial hardship to someone and/or affected a customer with physical consequences where they would be entitled to compensation and you wern't insured?
I used to operate without PL Insurance and consider that I was a cowboy in them thar daze.
As i said...give me some case scenarios of this happening,give me some hard facts reporting that these accidents happen to so many window cleaners that it will be necessary for the government to at last pass legislation to make having pl cover as a legal trading requirement...until that happens then nobody has the right or can prove the facts that those who dont carry pl cover are cowboys in this trade.
People who are willing to operate any business without PL are cowboys. You may not like that but it has to be said.
Dean.
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The cost is less than £100 for the year.
no it isnt
Go on then how much is it?? £110?
£192 & if i need more cover to go for commercial it'll be £288
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The cost is less than £100 for the year.
no it isnt
Go on then how much is it?? £110?
£192 & if i need more cover to go for commercial it'll be £288
You need to shop around fella.
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The cost is less than £100 for the year.
no it isnt
you seriously need to shop around la
my pli cover up to 5 mill is 102 quid
n i do commercial la
Go on then how much is it?? £110?
£192 & if i need more cover to go for commercial it'll be £288
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my pli is £102 up to 5 mill
i do commercial ;)
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i do loadsa commercial
never ad a quote much over £110
thats for £5,000,000 ;)
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What would be the scenario then if whilst at work you were the reason behind a serious accident that caused either a significant amount of financial hardship to someone and/or affected a customer with physical consequences where they would be entitled to compensation and you wern't insured?
I used to operate without PL Insurance and consider that I was a cowboy in them thar daze.
As i said...give me some case scenarios of this happening,give me some hard facts reporting that these accidents happen to so many window cleaners that it will be necessary for the government to at last pass legislation to make having pl cover as a legal trading requirement...until that happens then nobody has the right or can prove the facts that those who dont carry pl cover are cowboys in this trade.
People who are willing to operate any business without PL are cowboys. You may not like that but it has to be said.
Dean.
Well as i have said....when it becomes a legal requirement to have pl insurance as a wc and there is indisputable evidence and formal surveys stating that those without cover are wrong then i hold judgement,and until this happens which it never will not one of you has the right or evidence to back yourselves up to claim that a wc is a cowboy because he doesn't have one form of unreqiured insurance cover.
Do you require all your domestic customers to have insurance to cover them against you having an accident on their property?...presumably you will ask them and if they dont you would refuse the job.... ;D
Anyway that's a bit pedantic.....but it just angers me that others are quick to judge the competancy of someone because they dont have this insurance cover....
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i pay £65 for insurance up to 1 million. Piece of mind for if you ever drop your ladders on a customers car, dog, child etc
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Maybe something like this
'FOR YOUR PEACE OF MIND,
our approved network of window cleaners are vetted by us to ensure
THAT EVERY WINDOW CLEANER, IN EVERY TOWN IN THE UK, HAS UP TO DATE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE WITH A MINIMUM COVER OF £xM.'
Providing national coverage with local service.
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i do loadsa commercial
never ad a quote much over £110
thats for £5,000,000 ;)
What cover you got gav i pay £300 a year , that includes property worked on though , some dont
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Those basic prices that float around the £100 mark probably wont have glass being worked on nor damage to flat roof.
Cracked a pane of glass myself yesterday, first one in 14 years.
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i do loadsa commercial
never ad a quote much over £110
thats for £5,000,000 ;)
What cover you got gav i pay £300 a year , that includes property worked on though , some dont
yes inclues property worked on
aswell as accidental damage of 25k
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Hi All
Please remember that the main part of the site is advitising, I think you will find that no other site (yell, thompson, directories) even ask for insurance so we are trying to improve things from day one, we are then working with training providers and such to help our members improve over time but this is not a quick fix,
Insurance is best practice for any task you carry out in business, by not having insurance it dosen't make you a bad window cleaner just a bad business person FACT
If any of the people that signed up today are members welcome to the growing network
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Those basic prices that float around the £100 mark probably wont have glass being worked on nor damage to flat roof.
Cracked a pane of glass myself yesterday, first one in 14 years.
It won't be expensive to sort out yourself! I believe it's quite simple, even if it's a double glazed sealed glass unit.
Probably cheaper than claiming on your insurance since they'll hike next years premium.
I carry PL insurance, but I have a few jobs that require it and ask me yearly for a copy of it.
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I spoke to the estate manager about it, the owners had just gone out, he said 'Are you sure that was you, I know we've got one pane cracked somewhere, it might have been that one' ;0)
Yea right thinks I, there's just about a hundred windows on that place, with at least 12 panes on each one. Nice guy that estate bod ;0)))
Top window (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/423874_3390388037996_1218460489_3596967_1395581178_n.jpg)
Can't really see it, top window, top sash, bottom row, middle pane.
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Do u like windows matt?
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Thats an interesting question ;D
Ummm, probably not, but I have a warped mind, maybe I like the pain (pane?? ha ha)
;)
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Hi Guys
I think someone will be posting some good if not great news on here later!!!!!
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Hi Guys
I think someone will be posting some good if not great news on here later!!!!!
:)
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Hi Guys
I think someone will be posting some good if not great news on here later!!!!!
You wait until the oil ympicks.
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Funny you mention it.
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So much for UK domination eh? ;D ;D
Honestly, you couldn't make it up! ;D ;D ;D
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So much for UK domination eh? ;D ;D
Honestly, you couldn't make it up! ;D ;D ;D
I think Pure Hydro bought "all of Birmingham" just before it all went quiet and now I think he has sold up.
Kiss of death lol
Art
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I spoke to the estate manager about it, the owners had just gone out, he said 'Are you sure that was you, I know we've got one pane cracked somewhere, it might have been that one' ;0)
Yea right thinks I, there's just about a hundred windows on that place, with at least 12 panes on each one. Nice guy that estate bod ;0)))
Top window (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/423874_3390388037996_1218460489_3596967_1395581178_n.jpg)
Can't really see it, top window, top sash, bottom row, middle pane.
Is it me, or are some or all of those bottom windows fake ones? The ones they put there to look like windows but only did so to avoid some sort of tax?
Get them on old Georgian buildings.
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Hi Guys
I think someone will be posting some good if not great news on here later!!!!!
The suspense has been killing me! C'mon spill the beans :)
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Hi Guys
I think someone will be posting some good if not great news on here later!!!!!
The suspense has been killing me! C'mon spill the beans :)
;D ;D ;D ;D